F1 should cancel the last 3 races. | FerrariChat

F1 should cancel the last 3 races.

Discussion in 'F1' started by LightGuy, Oct 30, 2015.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 4, 2004
    45,585
    Texas
    Full Name:
    David
  2. mikelfrance

    mikelfrance Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2014
    594
    What I would LOVE is one last race where every driver randomly goes into any other car than their own and then they race.

    That would be a blast to see. Call it an exhibition but it would be tremendous fun to see Hamilton in a Manor or Massa in a Mercedes.
     
  3. IanMac

    IanMac Formula 3

    Jul 26, 2006
    1,455
    Scotland
    Full Name:
    Ian
    I can understand that it would be more exciting to have everything in doubt until the last race, but it's just not realistic - and cancelling the remaining races is certainly not an option. Contracts are in place for the full programme of races and people will certainly already have bought tickets for Mexico, and perhaps also the other two races.

    Many thought double points for the final race was dubious, and why should any one race be worth twice as much as the others? Unless they can come up with some arrangement that retains the excitement until the end but is universally seen to be fair, we'll have to live with what we have.
     
  4. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

    Sep 30, 2012
    8,102
    The Horn
    Full Name:
    Igor Ound
    On the basis that the championsips have already been decided they could have cancelled the whole of this and the last season in advance.
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,641
    Cancel the last 3 races because the championship has already been decided?

    What a daft idea!!

    Think about the organisers who did bid with FOM and have a contract to host a GP in their countries; will they get compensation?

    What about the people who have booked holidays or made travel arrangements to attend these GPs, will they also get refunds and compensation?

    Will the teams mechanics be put on long holidays or laid off until next year?

    Apart from these considerations, the championship hasn't been fully decided yet, and drivers and teams can still score points to improve their ranking.
     
  6. RallyeChris

    RallyeChris Formula Junior

    Nov 30, 2012
    554
    Northport, NY
    Full Name:
    S.C.Conigliaro
    Reverse grid for last 3, perhaps. I want excitement, not lack-thereof.
     
  7. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Dec 6, 2002
    79,380
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    Who??

    Mike Pryson looks like he could do with less doughnuts...:D :D :D

    Some years it just goes that way.....

    The contrarian view, to me, is that the gloves can come off, and I would not be suprised to see Nico drive over Hamilton's head, if he could, smashing it like a watermelon....
     
  8. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Dec 6, 2002
    79,380
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    Someone at Autoweek doesn't understand mutimillion dollar contracts......:rolleyes:

    Understandable, I suppose...
    :D :D :D
     
  9. TexasF355F1

    TexasF355F1 Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Feb 2, 2004
    72,437
    Cloud-9
    Full Name:
    Jason
    Wasn't this a topic after one or two of Vettel's championships?
     
  10. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

    Sep 25, 2006
    23,397
    Campbell, CA
    Full Name:
    Ian Anderson
    +1

    These last few races will determine the distribution of many millions of $. Sure, the championship is decided, but there's still plenty going on behind.

    I'll still be watching! ;)

    Nope! (IMESHO!) As noted, this is serious business, not some kind of artificial game show. The others should doff their caps (or toss them around! ;)) & do a better job.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  11. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,641

    Me too.

    There is the next race at Mexico on a revamped track to look forward to.

    Obviously anyone who would like to curtail the season is not a fan of motor racing.

    Although I moan like mad about the state of the championship, I don't like the winter break.

    I cannot imagine F1 being "amputated" of its last GPs, there would be no credibility left!
     
  12. racerx3317

    racerx3317 F1 Veteran

    Oct 17, 2004
    5,701
    New York, NY
    Full Name:
    Luis
    They didn't cancel the last three races in '13 then why the hell should they now?
     
  13. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
  14. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

    Oct 18, 2009
    8,254
    Worcester, England
    Full Name:
    Phill J
    (From: Bernie Ecclestone should cancel the final three races of the F1 season | Autoweek ):

    "To me, it’s like playing the Super Bowl, crowning a champion and then watching three more weeks of the regular season –- three more weeks of watching my beloved Detroit Lions lose."

    I'm not quite sure how that analogy is supposed to work! - How can you have had the Super Bowl with three weeks of the regular season still to be played? :confused:

    But if we stick with the American Football theme, once teams know they're not going to be in the play-offs and are out of the running for the Super Bowl, does their season end then and there? - No, they still have to play out their remaining games.

    And what about the games themselves?

    If there is a game being played where it's the 4th quarter and the score is, let's say, 41-3, with two minutes to play, do the officials decide: "This game is over already so let's not bother playing the last two minutes" and end the game early?

    They know that there's no way the losing team are going to score 38 points in the remaining two minutes but they still play out the last two minutes because that is the full duration of the game, even if there is nothing left to play for.

    What the author of this article seems to be completely oblivious to is the fact that the F1 season isn't just about the WDC & WCC Champions, it's also about where the teams finish up in the championship, which can have a massive effect on the money they receive from this season.

    (And here's the thing about Sauber and Force India's bid to have equal payouts in F1: Were that in place, then there'd be nothing left for any of the teams to race competitively for in the last three races!).

    The remaining races are also a golden opportunity for the teams to make preparations for the 2016 season, to try new ideas and concepts and to give reserve drivers some F1 experience in free practice one.

    And why should F1 fans in Mexico, Brazil and Abu Dhabi be denied the chance to see their favourite sport and drivers just because the championships have been decided?

    With less pressure on the drivers now, the racing may well be even better!

    Frankly, this whole article is not that well thought out in reality!

    "Sorry, F1. As for the last three races of the season, I think I'll pass."? - Sorry Mike Pryson but you obviously don't understand everything that's involved with F1, and F1 will not miss you for the last three races!
     
  15. mikelfrance

    mikelfrance Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2014
    594
    Aside from the legal and financial issues, I can see it.

    The World Series is 7 games. If one team wins the first 4, do we play the next 3 anyway? Think of the revenue lost of 3 World Series games?

    These next 3 races are merely exhibitions. Unfortunately, there are people in and out of the cars risking their lives to put on a meaningless "show". There is no "sport" in the next 3 races as there's no point to winning. Just being there is enough.

    F1 is not really a sport. It's a TV reality show. If it were a sport, it would stop as soon as someone had won.
     
  16. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

    Oct 18, 2009
    8,254
    Worcester, England
    Full Name:
    Phill J
    WRONG!

    As I've already posted, there's a lot of championship prize money still at stake over the last three races for the mid-field teams!
     
  17. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,641
    +1


    Also, real motorsport fans want to see racing!
     
  18. IamRobG

    IamRobG F1 Rookie

    Jun 18, 2007
    4,092
    NY
    1 Mercedes 574
    2 Ferrari 374
    3 Williams 220
    4 Red Bull Racing 150
    5 Force India 102
    6 Lotus 70
    7 Toro Rosso 63
    8 Sauber 36
    9 McLaren 27
    10 Marussia 0


    Ferrari can't catch Merc
    Williams cant catch Ferrari
    Red Bull needs some 1st place and some podiums to catch Williams

    Realistically...Toro Rosso and Lotus are the only 2 fighting for position. With basically the top 6-8 spots being the same teams, its almost impossible for Lotus to catch Force India.
     
  19. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,641
    I suppose cancelling the last 3 GPs could be seen as "cost cutting" ?

    But I am wondering what the sponsors would say about that!
     
  20. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    42,716
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    The writer of the article is a sodding idiot.
     
  21. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    This. Bernie should cancel autoweek.
     
  22. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

    Oct 18, 2009
    8,254
    Worcester, England
    Full Name:
    Phill J
    With three races left, the points available are:

    1st: 75 pts.
    2nd: 54 pts.
    3rd: 45 pts.
    4th: 36 pts.
    5th: 30 pts.
    6th: 24 pts.
    7th: 18 pts.
    8th: 12 pts.
    9th: 6 pts.
    10th: 3 pts.

    Realistic or not, mathematically there is still a lot to be played for when it comes to the mid-field teams.

    To declare the last three races as being completely pointless and a waste of everyone's time is simply wrong!
     
  23. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

    Sep 25, 2006
    23,397
    Campbell, CA
    Full Name:
    Ian Anderson
    +1

    The archetypal "wanker" as we used to say.

    A fat clueless idiot it seems!

    But, I guess the old adage that "the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about" applies - He's certainly got our attention.....
     
  24. Ney

    Ney F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 20, 2004
    7,365
    You have the analogy wrong.....

    When the Mets or the Royals or whatever team meets their magic number to clinch a playoff spot with say 10 games left in the season, do they stop the season? No, they play out the rest of their games. F1 does not have a playoff system, they only have the season.....and it gets played out. The writer of this article is either trolling or is so out of touch with how Formula 1 works and how the distribution of season revenues works that he should not be writing for an automotive magazine. Dumber than dirt....
     
  25. BartonWorkman

    BartonWorkman F1 Veteran

    Nov 3, 2003
    6,173
    En El 305
    Full Name:
    Barton Workman
    In other news, Autoweek is still in business?

    BHW
     

Share This Page