"F1 should drop V6s for old V8 engines - Red Bull's Christian Horner"

The old engines had wastegate.

 

+1

 

This^!!!

 

Mercedes cannot hold F1 hostage by threatening to pull out if they go back to V8.

 

We've all been stuck on airplanes either circling aimlessly or idling needlessly waiting to land or tAkeoff. To claim they are doing this to save fuel is completely asinine IMHO. More PC bull****....

 

This power unit will be the end of F1 most likely because you probably can't go back because of investment in these thing and to move forward a open door for developing them is going to alot of money that not one team has . The small teams are up against they can't stay in and can't sell out to outside investors because of the costs . Dark days a head my friend's

 

How about limiting displacement and leaving configurations to each competitor? Isn't F1 supposed to be a top tier series?
The sport has been hobbled for years with silly regulations meant to give back markers a leg up*, the last round, specifically these ridiculous "power units" is the last straw for many.
* didn't work, did it?

 

Nobody will even want them for vintage events. Dusty museum pieces that will be ignored.
Melt 'em down for soup cans.

 

The new regulations in F1 have to be seen in the wider context of fuel efficiency and energy saving which are a global issue.

The fact is that some manufacturers have asked for these regulations to use F1 as a bench test for their research and a showcase for their technology. It's Renault, Ferrari, Mercedes, Honda and maybe some others, that have drafted the engine regulations.

The FIA has acquiesced because Bernie told them the participation of the major manufacturers was essential.

Now the public is disenchanted, the teams find the power units too costly and Bernie does his best to distance himself from the whole fiasco "I told you so", etc....

 

I'm afraid you might be right.

 

Surely every turbo charged engine has to have a wastegate, otherwise how do you control boost?

Anyway the biggest problem as Fast_Ian said is they are not revving the engines hard because they don't need and want to, as the electric motor is providing the torque. Removing the fuel restrictions might encourage harder revving, but not sure ...
Pete

 

The new turbos don't have waste gates . I maybe wrong but the extra pressure is used to recharge the battery . The battery is used to spin the turbo back up that's why there is no turbo lag

 

I bet these engines sound better next year ... which is not far away.

I imagine these very same discussions were had when the 1.5 litre formula was announced back in the 60's ... but of course back in those days we did not have as many rules to save (waste) money ...
Pete

 

Turbo engines do not rev as hard as atmo engines because of the counter-pressure in the exhaust system, but they give more torque and also more power per stroke.

 

Yes, but we know that these engines do not rev to their limits because the electric engines are providing more torque than the combustion engine.
Pete