F1 Strategy group meeting

Worst fire in f1 in my life time was the Williams fire after the race in Spain and it was caused by a battery

 

Why are they wasting time with this? I think Fchat members make better decisions than this so called strategy guys..

 

Nuclear power is the real answer

 

If F1 were really concerned about cutting edge relevance for the production car industry, they would get behind the latest craze...self-driving cars.

 

And they can make a special one for Maldonado programmed to be the pac-man

 

Refuelling is a complete red herring. It dulls the show by taking out one of the key variables in a race - weight change. It eliminates the incentive to try and over take on track. It adds complexity into the pit and not the race. It is meddling in the margins and not a benefit to the show.

 

It adds drama, strategy and action. It is also showing that the sport is a team effort and it is great to watch.

 

+1

No other sport would accept gimmicks like F1 does.

Anything that detracts from the purity of racing is wrong.

 

Impo if a team wants to pit 10 times that's OK impo if you don't allow refueling your always going let the best car win . Only rules there should be is safety and cost refueling saves money because if your car is hard on its tyres you can run light and not have to spend a whole year trying to fix it .

 

Refuelling takes out variables. It doesn't add them in. It makes tire changes less risky, it removes large weight swings from the car during the race and hence makes the optimal performance window of the car narrower. What this does is just accentuate any marginal performance advantage that the fastest car has and makes it even harder for the others to catch up. It is a step backward.

What this sport needs is less technical constraints on aero and engine and incentives for more substantial engineering innovation. I can't give two hoots about the latest leading edge profile of a front wing end plate, but that's what we are forced to love with. Come on - surely they can do better. Look at WEC - they have found a way to control performance but encourage engineering innovation in a way that F1 fans can only dream about...

 

Drivers almost unanimously welcome refuelling back. Case closed imo.

 

Well, tell me what's wrong with that !!!

That's the whole idea of motor racing, isn't it?

Build a better car than the opposition so that you can win !!

It's just that nobody has the best car forever, therefore there is still competition, with team catching up and overtaking what was yesterday's best car.

I do not understand why so many people are hellbent on punishing success in F1.

 

Not quite.

Toto Wolff (Mercedes) said it will come back if there is commercial case for it.

It would still cost a lot of money to transport the equipment and extra staff from GP to GP, which is why it was abandoned in the first place.

Surely teams that struggle for budget don't need an extra spending imposed on them!

 

F1 has lost the right to even mention economics.

 

A commercial case? As in, relevant to road cars? Well, my road car needs refueling.

Refueling doesn't have to be expensive or high-tech. Let F1 use gravity fed hoses, or gravity fed dump cans like NASCAR. Sorry if that would ruin the aura around the pinnacle of racing. But, having a burly guy heft a big gas can will get the job done and not cost too much. If F1 is really worried about pit crew costs, maybe 14 guys to change 4 tires could be cut back to 12

 

+1

It also keeps the cars from starting races on bloated full tanks. The lap times of opening laps of GPs now are comical...

 

You didn't understand my allusion to commercial case, and you prefered to turn it into derision.
There is not ecrtainty that refuelling would make financial sense.
Would it bring more spectators?
Would it bering more money to the teams?
That's what I mean by commercial xase.

As for refuelling with primitive methods, let's leave that to NASCAR, shall we?
They still use jacks to lift the cars, etc...
I wouldn't get technical clues from NASCAR, a series which until recently din't know about fuel injection !

 

'Refuelling won't solve the problem'

'Refuelling won't solve the problem'

Christian Horner has dismissed claims that bringing back refuelling will result in upping the excitement on a Sunday afternoon. We got rid of refuelling for a reason, it didn't make the races interesting," the Red Bull team boss told Sky Sports F1.

 

Whatever allows the drivers to push harder for a greater number of laps is a step in the right direction, IMO. This is F1. It should be a balls to the wall sprint, not a Sunday tire and fuel saving drive.


Mark

 

+1

 

Horner is calling for the FIA and Bernie to excerise greater control over the direction of the sport.

"Stop us before we screw ourselves. Again."

 

At least some people have good common sense...

 

F1 will continue down it's path of self-destruction for as long as it contrives to restrict and limit creativity. Stopping practicing, preventing refueling, creating ever more rules - these are manifestations of this self-destruction.

There is no other sport in the world where teams can't practice. There is no other sport in the world where players/teams can't adjust their equipment as and when they need.

It makes me laugh when I see people quote # of overtakes as if this is the divine purpose of F1. I'll repeat, there is nothing better than watching lap after lap of one team keeping their car ahead in a tight battle.

 

+1

Testing means development and a chance to catch up.

Pretty much impossible under the present rules.