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F1 supposed to be Grabby?

Discussion in '360/430' started by dwells, Mar 29, 2017.

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  1. dwells

    dwells Rookie

    Jan 15, 2017
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    Hello, is the f1 clutch system supposed to feel grabby, like a progressive pull from a dead stop.

    Or should it feel like it feathers in while at a stop and you begin to move?
     
  2. boostd

    boostd Karting

    May 4, 2014
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    I think it depends on how much gas you're giving it. If you ease into gas, the F1 will feather more. Give it more gas and it will grab like you're dropping a clutch in a 3 pedal car. It is, after all, a manual (just with a robot).
     
  3. dwells

    dwells Rookie

    Jan 15, 2017
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    Easy on the gas from a stop. It should feather?

    If it is grabby when easing on the gas, this is not normal?
     
  4. cfensty

    cfensty Formula 3
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    Mine is not grabby when easing on gas from a stop but it does change to be slightly more grabby in sport mode.


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  5. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #5 tazandjan, Mar 29, 2017
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    If I were you, I would have the F1 system serviced. Have your tech change the F1 fluid, bleed the system, check for leaks, and adjust point of initial slippage (PIS in English). Should be done every 3 years on all F1 cars, even though the 360/F430 maintenance schedule does not have a specific recommendaton.

    Takes a while to learn to drive F1 smoothly.
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  6. mkzhang

    mkzhang Formula Junior
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    Just got a new clutch and mine is very grabby, I think the main difference for me is that unlike a 6speed, the F1 clutch closes in a progressive manner.

    In a 6speed, people would release the clutch pedal until it starts to move the car and then generally hold it in that spot until the car has enough tq to roll and sustain the momentum and then they would let off the clutch while giving it more gas. So its not very progressive.

    In a F1, every mili second you are on the gas the clutch closes a bit more until it is fully closed. So if you were expecting some slippage and then the clutch closes, it will feels very weird like the clutch is closing quicker than if you were operating the clutch pedal yourself.
     
  7. KM1959

    KM1959 Formula Junior

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    At the risk of echoing some others, mine (F430) is very smooth - no lurching whatsoever. I typically have it in "Sport" mode but it is even that way in "Race" - just seems to shift faster in that mode though - but not jerky.
     
  8. CCRider66

    CCRider66 Formula Junior
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    Jul 29, 2014
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    I ease on the gas and it's a perfect smooth start every time. The F1 is not a Robot, It reads my mind and operates the clutch exactly the way I'm thinking!
    Ferrari's are light years ahead of the game :)
     
  9. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

    Sep 20, 2013
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    Hehe, yeah me too ;) But seriously, if it's really grabby and stuttery, you may have a glazed flywheel which is not cool. Get it checked at least and practice some. Then service if needed. Also, use neutral when coming to a full stop for any duration. It will save clutch wear.
     
  10. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Not true. If you are on the stopped in gear on brake or in N the clutch is disengaged. No difference in clutch wear or wear to the throw-out bearing either it is a constant contact system.
     
  11. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

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    #11 John_K_348, Mar 29, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2017
    Right sorry, I meant don't downshift through all the gears if you KNOW you are going to be stopped for a while. Unless you can accelerate exiting a corner there is no real need to downshift other than to hear the great throttle blips. I have a CS TCU so that helps too ;)

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  12. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    True but I do it anyway. If my clutch lasts 40K and not 45K I just don't care that much and the fun is worth it. :)
     
  13. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

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    Haha, now you're talking. Pow! Brummm!

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  14. djempire

    djempire Formula Junior

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    I keep it in Race mode. Lees clutch slippage - grabs harder.
     

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