F1 teams agree elimination style qualifying for 2016

The new format really was ridiculous. After hearing about it, I'd thought it could be interesting, worth a try. The details, though, eliminated any possibility - the dropout every 90 seconds, even with cars in mid-lap, meant many teams didn't even try. If their car wasn't on track 3.5 or 4 minutes prior to the drop-out timer, they wouldn't complete a flying lap. If they did complete a flying lap to improve a bit and miss a drop-out, guaranteed they couldn't have the car serviced and back out to try to avoid the next one, so they just parked it.

Seriously, if they want more cars committed on track during the qualifying hour and less dead track time, just keep the old rules but make it 4 qualifying sessions instead of 3, ensuring the sessions are long enough to allow at least 2 flying laps. It would have the desired effect, still keep showdowns as drivers finish their laps after the session time expires, etc.

 

The 90 second rule means that teams don't have enough time to pit, tweak the setup, and get back out in time. Has to be done very early in the qualifying session.

So the lesser teams who need more time to tweak have less. Thus Merc and SF have little to worry about lesser teams catching them late in the session. They can park earlier.

 

The people that run F1 are as bad as govt officials running most countries....very bad.

 

As I said, this would just result in an empty second half of a session.

The *real* solution, is a tire that doesn't fall off pace in 1 lap, or, at minimum, not starting the race on your qualifying tires.

 

And for once at least, seems they *all* agreed (very unusual as we know) to **** can this nonsense.

So that's a little progress.
Cheers,
Ian

 

You only realized that now? Look at the all the rules in general and it's clear no brains or logic were used in the decision making process.

 

I'm just going to say it... I was wrong. I tried to have faith that it wouldn't be terrible, but, it was.

 

+1

I too was prepared to give it a try..... 'Keep an open mind' & so on.

Turns out it was a disaster. The good news is that they recognized that PDQ, and it's gone next race.

Cheers,
Ian

 

^Is that rumor or confirmed? I haven't seen anything considered official!


Not trying to call you a liar, just don't want to get my hopes up haha!

 

Confirmed

 

This should make you feel happier:

Formula 1 bosses agree to abandon new qualifying format - BBC Sport

F1 chief Bernie Ecclestone vows to bin disastrous new qualifying format | Sport | The Guardian

F1 to abandon new qualifying format - PlanetF1 : PlanetF1

F1 Australian GP: Panned qualifying format set to be scrapped | F1 0

Teams and FIA agree to scrap new F1 qualifying format

F1 teams agree to ditch elimination qualifying

F1 bosses ditch new qualifying format after one race | Daily Mail Online

F1's elimination-style qualifying dropped with immediate effect | F1 News​

All the best,
Andrew.

 

"I still don't believe you" - CSM0TION

 

I was open minded, well let's go with hopelessly foolish.

 

Unless of course they use this as a go-signal to go find something else that's not broken and try to fix that.

 

I also with the same views: it was terrible with capital T. It seemed to be a
micro-management quali instead of a proper qualifying session. Going by the seconds
makes it really difficult to improve; that was the point of a qulifying session, start a
base run and improve during the session, albeit with limited time. Now it's like a
bad penalty shotout. I'm glad it was an experiment and it's now over.

 

Whenever an organization contemplates a major change, they need to "game" it to predict how it will roll out. Too often the excitement surrounding the change and its anticipated benefits obscure reality. This is a textbook example of what this error looks like.

 

If they would have allowed drivers to complete their final lap even after the 90 seconds was up, it would have been okay. But needing 4+ minutes to do their outlap and then their hot lap, that was stupid.

 

+1. Yes, several drivers were on their flying laps just to realize that they were not going to
make it. Image this qualifying format in the old Hockenheim circuit or in Singapore in which
a lap is closer to 2 minutes.