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F1 Tire Warmers To Remain In 2009

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  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    Tyre warmers will remain in Formula One next year, autosport.com can reveal, after the FIA agreed to scrap plans to impose a ban in 2009.

    The governing body had been scheduled to scrap the use of tyre blankets to coincide with the return of slicks at the start of next season in a bid to improve the racing and cut costs.

    But that move led to concern from drivers about safety implications, after they tried out slick rubber without warmers in winter testing.

    With a big difference in laptimes between cars on cold tyres and those with warmed up rubber, drivers feared about the increased chance of accidents.

    Bridgestone was adamant though that the rubber it planned to use would not cause any safety problems - and it told the FIA that it saw no reason to scrap the tyre warmer ban for this reason.

    However, one way of guaranteeing tyre safety was for Bridgestone to impose a minimum tyre pressure limit – and this was something the teams could not find a satisfactory way of imposing or policing.

    Honda Racing team principal Ross Brawn told autosport.com recently: "You can run tyres for sure without blankets, lot of formulae do, but we are a particularly competitive formula and if you don't run blankets with tyres you need to have a minimum pressure control.

    "We haven't worked out how to do that and that was the big concern – how to introduce it fairly and effectively for all the teams? And how do you avoid the massive overhead of policing it?

    "The TWG (Technical Working Group) said it wanted to keep tyre blankets because it could not see a solution to controlling minimum tyre pressure, and that was a big worry. So the option of having blankets was the easiest.

    "And interestingly tyre blankets are not prohibited in testing, so for efficiency of testing we will almost certainly be using tyre blankets in testing. So we will have had them in testing and not racing."

    The FIA agreed that the tyre pressure problem was insurmountable in the short term and, allied to the fact that there would be little reduction in costs because tyre blankets would still be used in testing, the governing body's World Council this week agreed to scrap the ban.
     
  2. robert_c

    robert_c F1 Rookie

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    What about the two tire types? Will they still have to run a hard and soft each race?
     
  3. jk0001

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    I wonder if they are still going to slicks
     
  4. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Huh? While I agree the blankets should stay, these cars are all sending telemetry back to the pits, and I'm pretty sure that data includes tire pressures - "How hard can it be?".....

    Just my 02c,
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  5. Gilles27

    Gilles27 F1 World Champ

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    So fans have been wanting to see a return to slicks for a decade. And now that it's set, F1 hasn't wasted any time in turning this into yet another technical mishmash of rules and anticipated allegations of cheating.
     
  6. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    No surprise ..
     
  7. ItaliaF1

    ItaliaF1 F1 Veteran

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    Yes, they are. I guess the question now is if there will still be two compounds brought to every race.
     
  8. rmani

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    the tires are already slippery when they come out of the pits for the 1st couple of laps. not having the warmers might lead to more crashes so i agree with their decision to allow their continued usage. i'm all for slick as well i bet we'll see a lot of new lap records next year.
     
  9. ItaliaF1

    ItaliaF1 F1 Veteran

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    I hope we do too, but I don't see how it can happen with all the downforce the cars will be losing next year. I'm all for methods to increase passing and better racing, but if it means the cars will be going even a tenth of a second slower, I'm way against it. Bernie and Max seem to think that the only reason we watch F1 is for the occasional overtaking, but I certainly don't think so. I watch F1 because of the immense technology, speed of the cars, and the notion that these guys are the "best drivers in the world." That said, there should be more overtaking, but not if it makes the lap times go down. I'm afraid all those lap records posted in 2003 and 2004 are here to stay for a while.
     
  10. racerx3317

    racerx3317 F1 Veteran

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    Nope, no surprise. Bunch of nancy boys............
     
  11. GrigioGuy

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    These guys are supposed to be pros. They can't drive on sub-molten rubber? Wimps.
     

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