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F1 Wants Las Vegas to Pay Fees …….

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  1. Nospinzone

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  2. Doug.

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    Good luck with that.

    F1 wants Las Vegas more than Las Vegas wants F1.
     
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  3. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Its... 1) a rumor and 2) the NY Post.

    So there...

    I did hear that the Cosmopolitan was going to block off the balconies during the race. That may be for safety reasons. Still don't think its confirmed yet.
     
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  4. 430tdf

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    I just laughed, F1 pulling a mafia style shakedown on the Vegas mob guys!
     
  5. Gary Jarlson

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    Most, if not nearly all, of the mob guys left Vegas quite some time ago. That was after they unloaded all of their barely-profitable clunkers or downright losers to the corporate MBAs years ago.
     
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  6. Sunshine1

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    :D
     
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  7. Sunshine1

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    +1
     
  8. paulchua

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    The way I see it is this. You throw a show, up to you if you put walls around it or not right? Public pays for stadiums all the time, no rule they got to make the action inside visible from the outside...That said, I'm always 100% against public paying for private stadiums, unless they get an equity stake. Seems like proper Business and Investment sense to me.
     
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  9. ryalex

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    My friends and I were joking how ludicrous this is because the track covers tens of thousands of possible viewing areas. Not just the hotel rooms but also businesses and residences. Friends already planning balcony parties. Do they charge every person in Monaco who has a view of the street?

    "That's some view you got here, would be a shame if something... happened to it..."

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  10. Chicko

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    F1 has used temp walls and boardings around various tracks to stop people who have not paid for tickets watching the race for free forever, why should Vegas be any different?
     
  11. Jack-the-lad

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    “Fuggeddaboudit….”
     
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  12. therryzsx

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    F1 should pay residents for forced to listen uncomfortable sound of crappy sounding turbo engines :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
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  13. Rifledriver

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    Typical old time Las Vegas thuggery. If they wanted privacy they should have built it in a private location. The streets are owned by the public and F1 is just being allowed to use them.

    Businesses, the casinos and hotels particularly will experience losses because the normal clientele will have very restricted access to the business and will stay home. An ability to see the event by those interested in it will obviously compensate for that.

    Tell F1 to stuff it and find another venue.
     
  14. ryalex

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    What is the extra insult to this rumor for locals is that EVERY SINGLE ARTERIAL STREET in a two mile radius of the strip is under construction right now, simultaneously, causing horrific gridlock in areas that are normally fast-moving, all because of F1 and making them a freshly-paved track, paddock and service areas.

    - you take our public money
    - you ruin our commutes and travel for a year
    - then you want to charge $1500 "per person" (whatever that means) to anything in a certain radius?
     
  15. Nospinzone

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    Were spectators at those various tracks also asked to pay $1500 pp?
     
  16. Chicko

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    Are you saying that some people in Vegas should pay $1500 and others should just get to watch for free?
     
  17. rampante550

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    Reminds me of the rooftop seating lawsuit against Wrigley field. I think they made a revenue sharing agreement after the first lawsuit but then it all got kicked up again with the expansion of the stadium which blocked the view from a few of the houses iirc.

    Either way, it's a little absurd for F1 to claim everything in line of site to be their's. It's not like like the view will be any good anyway. Plus, isn't the real money in the broadcast?

    Also, fwiw, I don't think we can just thumb our nose at the Post anymore - they got what may end up being the story of the century right, and nearly every other paper got it wrong..
     
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  18. willrace

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    Do any of the arriving/departing flights of McCarran Airport fly over, within sight of the track?
     
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  19. Ferraripilot

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    I don’t think F1 in Las Vegas will work out very long. Casinos won’t make what they think they will make. The typical Las Vegas clientele will not ‘get’ F1, and those coming into town who do ‘get it’ won’t be as many as you think after a short while. It’s the next Korean Grand Prix
     
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  20. Gary Jarlson

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    The history of car racing in Vegas tells you not to bet the ranch on its success or longevity. In the past, the very last thing the casinos wanted to see or promote was an event that took people outside. My brother and I, along with a lot of other people of course, promoted two races in Vegas in 1961. The first, at an unused portion of now Harry Reid Airport, drew flies. The second was a street race just one block from The Strip and utilized Paradise Valley Road, Desert Inn Road and the grounds of the Convention Center. There were more people in the pits than spectators. And I don't want to get into the idiocy of the Caesars Palace thing. I don't recall the crowd figure when Indy Cars ran a street race there. Of course, that track layout was downtown oriented. What tells me something about the possibilities of this event being around 2 or 3 years from now is the fact that a standing-only ticket for three days in some sort of large ball is $1,500. It's my old home town so I guess I have to wish them luck.
     
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  21. Vegas CS

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    Like Doug said….F1 needs Vegas FAR more than Vegas needs F1. I will not be attending as I’ve grown to dislike the “social media” atmosphere of current F1 races. It’s my dream to move to The Cotswolds, walk down to the local village pub and watch a race with a few fellow villagers while having a couple of pints.
     
  22. Nospinzone

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    I guess. :confused:
     
  23. mkraft3003

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    Counter argument is virtually every hotel is sold out, every rental car is sold out and most restaurants are sold out. No other event does that. Even during superbowl or march madness (the busiest times of the year) there are hotels and rentals cars available. They are expecting the F1 high rollers to spend a lot in the casinos, clubs and shops.
    With that being said the strip is an absolute mess and the construction is making everything come to a standstill. Only reason I’m going is my second home is there and I’d figure I’d go for the inaugural race. Just hope I can stay up that late. Lol
     
  24. Jaguar36

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    I just looked and for the race weekend, there are tons of hotels with availability, and plenty of rental cars available.
     
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  25. mkraft3003

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    That’s good. I’ve been told by people going out that they couldn’t find rental cars and aria, Bellagio, Venetian were sold out. Luckily it doesn’t affect my trip. :)
     

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