F1 Website biased?

John,

Windsor is actually Australian, and seems to be a big Massa Fan.

 

The OP's criticism was aimed at the F1 web site which should be bias free and isn't.

 

I am a big fan of F1 and love the sport, hence, I am a fan of all drivers and teams. Some more so than others granted, but, if a driver does well, any driver, then I will recognise that. The way Lewis drove on sunday was way above any other driver. I couldn't give a damn about the ballsed up first pit stop of Kimi. When he got his tyres changed he still didn't have a hope of getting near Lewis. Otherwise, can anyone explain how Lewis was able to lap him when his tyres had been changed?

He simply outclassed everyone. He has been likened to Schumacher and Senna by those in the know with regard to his car control in the wet which is where I feel a driver is best able to display his talent.

I understand he has said and made a few mistakes and I know he his kimi up the arse (lets forget about monaco). but he is a genuine talent that has real passion for his sport and is living the dream that none of us on here are able to do.

I simply fail to see why there is so much bile and venom spat at Lewis on this forum. I know he is in a Mclaren but would the same animosity be directed at him if he was in a Ferrari? Instead of having a go lets admire a fresh talent that is sometimes wayward but none the less a 100% bonefide talent.

Oh, and I am a brit and proud of it but I am a fan of F1 as a whole, as I have said above.

 

Which country would that be then Mr Arse?

 

I agree Paul. An article in "Racer Magazine" (an AMERICAN publication by the way...) was titled "Silverstone a Lewis Master Class". Are they also biased?

And ESPN said this in their article about the race: "Hamilton's third victory of the season gives him 48 points. He is tied with Ferrari drivers Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen, but leads the championship chase based on his better finishes in the other races." Obviously ESPN has taken the time to learn what the rules say about how drivers are classified. Unfortunately, those claiming English bias have not...

 

Yes he is. It is possible to be leading a race before it finishes. Leading doesn't guarantee that you'll win, but the fact is that Lewis drove a great race and is now leading the WDC. The website you quoted was not inaccurate or biased.

 

Lewis is in a three way tie ok, like it or not, because the number of wins has meant absolutely nothing in F1 since '89. Personaly I would rather see the championship go to the driver with the most win's but that is not what we are dealing with at the moment although Bernie want's to go back to the most win's scenario.

 

Sorry, I think you are wrong. If the points are tied then the number of wins is taken into account.

 

True, I also recall some thing like that and Martin Brundle said something similar after the Race in the Sunday evening replay/follow up show.

 

Lewis is tied for 1st place with Kimi and Massa or you can say he is the 3rd person tied for 1st place?

 

Ha ha, what's a discrace........?

And your not!!!.........

 

Shall we wait for baited breath for your acknowledgement that you are indeed talking out your ass?

You said "maybe I am talking out my ass", but you had already been shown to be. So are you waiting for the crow to cool a bit before digging in or just do the duck-and-weave-nothing-to-see-here thing?

 

Excellent post and very well stated.

 

I agreed with your whole post except this.

In the laps leading up to the pit stops, Kimi was catching Lewis like a mad man. He had several laps that were over 1 second quicker than Lewis, and then they both came into the pits, and Lewis instantly started pulling away. Lewis had a great race, but I think Ferrari lost it for Kimi more than Lewis won it for McLaren.

 

Lewis held onto the car in the rain when others didn't.

But the rain started up just about the time of those pit stops (lap 20). So when the track got worse, the pressure was already off -- nobody was pushing Lewis, and he could set his own pace. Much of the rest of the grid were in position fights at some point or another.

Kimi set the fastest lap of the race ... on lap 18, shortly before his first stop. Lewis's fastest lap was lap 16 -- the third fastest of the race, three quarters of a second slower than Kimi's lap 18 time.

There are tons of "if onlys" to go around, here.

So Ferrari certainly made it easier for Lewis to look good in the rain. It might have been more interesting to see Lewis and Kimi scrapping for position in the wet. When you're doing 11/10th is when you get mistakes.

(Of course, we don't know if Kimi's setup would have been as good in the wet as Lewis'. Kimi was notably quicker when the track was starting to dry, but when it got wet again, we can't tell what might have happened -- the tire choice masked any difference in setups.)

 

Very true.

 

I did, in post #4 of this thread.

Lewis looked good driving in the rain. But it's not that hard to look good at 9/10ths. Put somebody two sec behind him, and then we'd have seen how good he *races* in the rain.

Although he did a pretty good job at Monaco, too.

I'm inclined to think he might have won this one in a scrap, but due to the Ferrari team botch-up, now we'll never know.

So a brit publication is celebrating a brit driver doing well in a brit race in a brit car. Who'd'a thunk?

 

Thanks, but I fear your wasting your time..

 

Rattled my cage?

You posted a thread but you were wrong in the assumption that led to your tirade. When people told you that you were wrong, you started with the "LH asslickers" and "disgrace to your countrymen" crap. Quite frankly, this thread just made you look really bad. I thought it was funny Mr-Aggression-NO-I-AM-RIGHT didn't have the humility to man up and admit when he made a mistake after his error was shown to him.

You seem to have a lot of pent up anger... you must be a DREAM to live with. Or not!

 

Mike, you think he is angry here, look at his posts in the Politcal Section.

 

Trouble is , It's sounding like sour grapes, Answer: just dont read it, the fact you posted a thread about it is highlighting it, dont take it on board.

I highly respect SRT Mike's post's, best to let it drop...

 

Four points, fifth place. Transcription error:

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Kimi 2 wins.
Phil and Lewis: each: 3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 5th, 1 13th, 1 19th. --- dead even from eight of the nine races.

Phil: 14th, Lewis: 10th. <- decider.

(Lewis dnf:19, np: 10th, 13th; Phil: dnf: 19,14, np: 13)

So, technically, it's Lewis 1st, Phil 2nd, Kimi 3rd.

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But it's still technically Lewis 1st, Phil 2nd, Kimi 3rd. So that changes the "how Lewis can be leading with equal points" issue not at all.

Lewis *is* leading --- by one of the smallest margins after 9 races in F1 history.

(It's the narrowness of that margin I was trying to convey. But people treat language like a salad bar: they take what they want and ignore the rest. )

Buttons sorted now? (But Button is another brit issue, right? )