F12 Jerky on low speeds

wow no have not heard of that. mine is super smooth

 

2014

 

Yes fully stock.

 

I have a stock 2016, and have noticed the same depending on driving mode, auto vs manual, and most importantly, brake pressure. I think it’s one of the characteristics and charm of this generation of DCT. My 458 was a lot less refined than the F12. The newer DCT in the 488, F8, 812 etc is more like the PDK in a Porsche. My recommendation, drive it a little more spiritedly and make throttle inputs, braking, and shifts with intention, and that seems to smooth things out

 

I recently bought an FF which is similar at low speeds. I find when driving in traffic Auto mode deals with 1st to 2nd shifts in a much smoother manner than when using the paddles, so to that end I switch in and out of Auto when required. Throttle input is also quite sensitive, especially if you've been driving in a spirited manner, the ECU has a short term "memory" is expecting any throttle input to want maximum acceleration. Once you've pottered around for a while serenly it "learns" again and clams down.

Once on the move I tend to change gear using the paddles as Auto is in a rush to get to 7th as soon as possible.

So yes, these cars can be a bit jerky, after a while you figure out how they behave and drive accordingly.

 

Realistically it took me about 2 months (2000 miles) before I got to grips with what worked where, when it came to driving modes and throttle input.

I often read on here people stating "I've never used the Auto setting on my car in 10 years" or similar...and I wonder why, it really is smoother when in traffic or crawling.

 

Strange - I drive my F12 at least once a week (30K miles on it now) and unlike others on here, I find changes much smoother in traffic when in manual mode with the manettino set to sport than auto in any setting. Auto seems to have a real trouble in stop-start traffic in any manettino setting with clunky switching between gears (particularly 2nd-3rd). It feels like it is constantly trying to guess (badly) what you are going to do next. I find it gets even worse with in hotter weather (air temps above 25C/77F)

 

This might be an FF vs F12 trait as the FF has comfort & Sport whereas the F12 is Sport & Race.

My car spends most of it's life in comfort.

Sport + Auto in the FF is a disaster at anything other than 80%+ throttle.
Comfort + Auto is continent cruising stuff, so it may be different ECU settings.

 

Sounds about right

 

I drive my FF in Sport mode all the time, if in AUTO - I do not like the jerkiness or what one might call it when in comfort. Even WET is better than Comfort....And well during winter here in Sweden I either drive in Sport or Winter somewhat depending on weather. Also, when I drove to Oslo in the beginning of 2022, we had baaaaaaad weather - I mean realy realy bad weather... That day I drove ONLY in Manual mode, so that I never lost traction (only gears 1-4!) on the front wheels.

For what it is worth: I like the ability to adjust the settings according to weather and well the circumstances that are valid at the moment for driving. There is no auto software that can adapt all the time.

 

Yes a little, but really only when just starting for the day or really cold. Once warmed it is fine.

 

downshifting while coasting too, it slams a bit. The computer seems to predict better when either on throttle or on brake. My understanding from the Ferrari techs is that the DCT prepares and sets the clutches for upshift on throttle, and downshift on brake.

 

Surprised to hear about this. Mine is very smooth. The transmission learns your behavior over time so it doesn't surprise me that a journalist would get a car that many drivers evaluated and it never saw consistent driving. I have also changed the DCT and diff fluid every five years and the difference is noticeable.

 

I use comfort (or wet - I live in the UK after all!) and manual most of the time. I find very little difference between comfort and sport when in a manual mode, mainly as I'm pressing the bumpy road button if I'm ever in sport.

I will add here, I only use Auto when in crawling traffic, stop-start, traffic lights, roundabouts, city centre stuff if I'm in there for an hour or two. The first to second changes in that specific range are dealt with far smoother than in manual. When the traffic starts flowing in any reasonable way I'm back in manual so I can lock it in gears and stop the box "hunting" and suddenly unexpectedly dropping gears.

I figured out quite quickly to just let the box change down itself when in manual. The downshifts can be quite jerky when decelerating off brake, but when you're on it the downshifts are pretty crisp.

 

I only experience that when I’m in auto mode. The car is hellbent on changing gears quickly when in auto mode and that causes the jerkiness. In manual mode not at all. I don’t use auto mode unless I’m cruising on the highway.


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