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Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by 500drvr, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. SoCal to az

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    That’s the problem right. There is no requirement to be on a forum and read and learn. You don’t need to own a car if you enjoy cars and want to read about and talk about cars. We all at one point we’re aspiring Ferrari and lambo and Porsche owners.

    But when you start arguing with actual owners and passing off your uninformed opinion as gospel, well....that’s a problem.

    People may be making financial decisions based on these posts and your bs may cost someone money.
     
  2. paulchua

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    Sounds fun. I have some play money, put a market order to execute Monday for 100 shares. Tell Nancy, I have faith in her! Free money has to end at some point right?

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    @Dansage was the perfect example of this very point.
     
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  4. SoCal to az

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    2-4 cars a month!
     
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    This is just a train wreck .... of course I keep coming back - lol

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  7. ttforcefed

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    Hahaha. Yup.



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  8. noone1

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    Uh, I didn't tell you how to drive your cars. You didn't know how Auto mode worked. It works the same in pretty much every McLaren. I don't feel like going back and looking at old posts, but I'm pretty sure you didn't realize/know that Auto mode in McLarens are mainly throttle dependent. You said you never used the mode and that auto mode is bad. You're wrong. Auto mode is very good and usable. If you want to redline in auto, you more or less can since the shift times are based on throttle. Again, you didn't know that and seemed to bash using auto mode for some reason.

    Now you know and probably use it happily.
     
  9. noone1

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    #234 noone1, Sep 21, 2019
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    OK, I'll do you a favor SoCal. Here are your posts about not knowing how your 720S works.

    So yeah, you didn't know and you were wrong... unless of course you're the guy who likes to cruise down the street making a **** load of noise at 30 mph at redline.

    Oh, and here you are admitting that you never having used the modes even though you just claimed they were terrible and upshift too quickly. So which was it, you know how they work or you never used them? It's cool, you slipped up, no worries.

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  10. noone1

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    I don't see the prerequisite for having a car at any given time. Most of the cars you own I wouldn't even want if they were given to me. You're in your 40s, I'm in my 30s. We don't like the same stuff.

    You talked a big game, but when asked what you've bought and sold, it was barely anything of note. You bought an F40 who knows how long ago, a CGT probably in 2010, and flipped a TDF. Everything else on that list... who cares. When you said you had more cars than days of the month, I figured it would be F50, F40, 288, Enzo, 918, and all that jazz, not a 91 Diablo and a FF.

    If I want to know what a car sells for these days, I'll just try to look at actual sales and offers, not what you paid for a BMW M3 or a Countach.
     
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  11. SoCal to az

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    Jesus Christ. He is still arguing trying to prove his point.

    Doesn’t own any exotics and yet is telling actual owners how to drive their cars and telling people who buy and sell regularly that they “only”
    Bought a Carrera GT and an F40.

    Tell me again how many miles you have behind the wheel of a 488 and 720? I have close to 9000.

    Tell me again how many cars you have bought and sold?

    Tell me again which exotic you currently own?

    Unreal.
     
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    #237 noone1, Sep 21, 2019
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    LOL. I'm not telling you how to drive anything. Drive your 720S at 27K rpm around your subdivision all day for all I care. Manually put the spoiler up too if you want at 42 mph. You didn't know how auto mode worked and I simply corrected you. What are you so upset about it?

    You said it yourself. You "never used auto mode", "ever". You said they shifted too early and made it terrible. I simply told you that you didn't understand how auto worked in the McLaren, being throttle and mode dependent. Maybe you tried it since then, maybe you haven't. I don't know and don't care.

    BTW, since you might not know this, you can leave the car in auto mode and manually shift. Cool trick, eh?
     
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  13. nads

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    Do I need to go fire up another bag of popcorn or is all this BS going to be over soon? :D
     
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    Good morning ....

    Several hours later, the train is still derailing ...

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  15. ttforcefed

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    do you think its weird you have 4k posts here and an equivalent amount on the mclaren board? do you understand why it's hard for us to comprehend the conviction with which you speak?
     
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    perpetual fuel in this train!!
     
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  17. mikesufka

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    You really need to go buy some “real cars” ... ;)

    Carry on

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  18. ttforcefed

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    and ill stay away from paddles so i dont get confused with using auto mode!
     
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    #245 noone1, Sep 21, 2019
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    March 2006 - Sept 2019. 13.5 years... 4927 days, 4300 posts.

    Do you find it weird for someone to post a single message per day? I don't. I don't find it weird that people use Instagram and Facebook 10x a day even though I don't look even once a week. Hell, there are long stretches when I'm busy and don't post really at all.

    I don't actually view this as a Ferrari owners board. It's just another car forum for following whatever the more modern cars are that happens to have more Ferrari stuff. I don't care about old cars, thus you won't see me posting in a 348 sub or a Gallardo sub. I read the Lamorghini board as well (though it's dead), and the Tesla board, and McLaren board, and the Audi R8 board. I read the forums/sub-forums with the modern model ranges because those are what I'm in the market for at any given time.

    I say you couldn't pay me to drive most of these cars, but the reality is that if the price was right and I was bored, I would buy just about anything. Currently there is absolutely nothing I care about owning. I've even looked at FF's before too, but I generally think it's ugly and the interiors are dated, hence why I don't jump at the "value" of a $100K modern NA V12. Why do you think I didn't buy a CGT in 2010? I think they're actually kind of ugly and for some reason they were really out of favor in value, figured they'd only get cheaper if I changed my mind. People over-exaggerate the clutch fragility too. Should have listened to my instincts and that I know how not to burn up a clutch.

    So how do I have conviction? Because I'm not emotional about these things and I don't practice the tribalism that most exotic car boards cater too. They're all just modern cars that will do just about everything you throw at them perfectly. It wasn't long ago that people **** on 3600 lb AWD cars... but now the latest and hottest Ferrari is a 3600 (probably closer to 3800) lb, turbo, AWD hybrid. Now the end of the world are particulate filters LOL. Oh if the whole world knew that Ferrari forums were full of people focused on particulate filters...

    So with conviction I can say 300 lbs extra in an SF90 doesn't matter in the real world. Porsche just did 7:20 on the NR in a 5000 lb 4 seater while someone is trying to tell me that 300 lbs is unacceptable.

    But I get. There was a time when I was irrational and emotional too, when I HAD to have CCB, when I called the dealer to know if I could spec CF trim yet, when I wanted those light weight Euro seats.
     
  21. italiafan

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    What is funny is I have him on ignore and can only see all your one-sided responses. :)
    But from history I can predict his inane comments.
    Guys...if everyone put him on ignore he’d not get any responses from the long time owners here, and thus become even more irrelevant than now.
     
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  22. mikesufka

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    Oh it’s comical reading .... no question about it.

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    #248 Thecadster, Sep 21, 2019
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    This post is in shockingly poor taste. For me, it represents a crossing over from simple court jester to something else altogether. I have long found interlopers/trolls curiously interesting, but “Mike” just jumped the shark with this last post. It’s one thing to be plainly wrong about nearly everything, it’s quite another to launch a breathtakingly rude attack like above. In the end, I just can’t make sense of a guy that owns no cars taking a shot at a guy who owns millions in cars. I mean ttforcefed probably spends more on storage/maintenance/taxes/insurance per year on his cars than “Mike” pays in income taxes.

    Lastly, IMHO, if one does not like cars enough to invest in any of them, maybe one should find an alternative online hobby. I can think of more than 10 cars I would buy right if I could.
     
  24. Eilig

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    There are several Tdf owners here who could/would contribute to this thread in a positive/productive manner were it not for all this childish non-productive banter. Is this what Fchat has degraded into?
     
  25. Thecadster

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    Upon a reread of my post just above, I think I crossed the line. To be clear, I don’t have a clue how much “Mike” pays in income taxes. Even making that reference was in poor taste on my part. I cannot believe I said that. I’ve been broke. I’ve had a couple dollars. People should be evaluated independent of the economics. Plus, it’s just none of my **** business.

    Something about launching an frontal assault on a 30 car collection when the person owns no cars made me completely swerve out of my lane. Apologies to both Noone1 in particular, and Fchat in general.
     
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