F355 Combined Meter Guage.

I was surprised to see that this particular part has a number of variants including LHD and RHD versions, as
for all intensive purposes the Combined Oil pressure/Water Temp Guage in our vehicles look the driver "straight on"

This is of course in contrast to the Radio Bezel Guages that are angled towards the driver and thus there is a need for RHD and LHD versions.

The 4 variants of the combined oil pressure/water temp are as follows.

157485: Oil/water guage LHD (Not for USA & GB) Valid also for Oriente-valid till stock exhaustion
168192: Oil/water guage LHD (Not for USA & GB) Valid also for Oriente-valid after stock exhaustion 157485

159729: Combined oil / water guage RHD Valid for USA and GB till stock exhaustion
168194: Combined oil / water guage RHD Valid for USA and GB after stock exhaustion 159729

This can be seen in the following link by hovering over item 3 in the pictorial diagram.
https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/Diagram/ferrari/f355-b-gts-spider-mo-27/135-instruments?part=168192

This would all make sense if the LHD cars had fahrenheit guages and the RHD cars had celsius guages.. but a cursory look on the internet shows that this is not the case.

Confusing to say the least..

Now putting the celsius vs fahrenheit issue aside.. would either guage ( 192 or 194) work equally as well in either vehicle..?

That is to say will a LHD guage work in a RHD vehicle.. ?

And does "Oriente" include Australia..?

 

There is a contradiction between the indication "RHD" and the statement that the gauge is "Valid for USA and GB" which implies that it is valid for both, LHD and RHD cars.

Similar contradiction exists in the case of "LHD" as there are LHD and RHD countries which are "Not USA & GB".

It appears that these are just typing errors on the Maranello website. Eurospares show that 192 is in Celsius (also indicate LHD) and that 194 is in Fahrenheit (also indicate RHD) but they do not mantion any "Valid (or not) for USA and GB".

 

Not sure what a "guage" is, but...

Why would European cars have fahrenheit?

If you mean a Fahrenheit vehicle and a Celcius vehicle are compatible... Sounds plausible. Oil pressure transmitters have the same part number on all cars and water temperature transmitters have the same part number on all cars. Wiring is the same (2.7 cars).

The Eurospares UK website is a little clearer.

https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/355/355_(2.7_Motronic)/PartDiagrams/135/Instruments?ref=003

Sorry, crossposted with Miro

 

The Eurospares website states the following..

168192.. Celsius
168194 Fahrenheit

But then when you look online you find that this is not the case.
I found a 192 guage with Fahrenheit..?!

So why does the factory have the the LHD and RHD designation??
Apart from the display of the temperature in (C or F) both 192 and 194 look physically identical, and it seems to me that they are interchangeable between RHD and LHD cars.

I tried confirming this with Ferrari Australia.. but no dice.

Any ideas..?





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What do you mean by "factory"?

Here is the factory catalogue

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ORIENTE = East

Your photo shows *C for 168192

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/405726766722

168194

https://redbaycars.com/webshop#!/products/oil-pressure-and-water-temp-gauges-in-fahrenheit-f355-part-nr-168194

What is wrong with your old one?

 

Nothing is wrong with my guage.. I just was looking for some insight into the confusion generated by the fact that LHD and RHD versions of this guage exist, when, as far as I can see no physical diffence exists apart from the display in Celsius and Fahrenheit.

My guy is telling me that mo difference exists between the guages other than this, and they are as such interchangeable accross all models of F355..

What do you guys think..?

 

You say it is fact that the “factory” has this designation. Maranello spares is not the factory. It’s an English company.

The factory catalogue I showed you has no such labelling. The photo example you gave is 192 and is Celsius.

The factory uses the code GD for right hand drive.

Other than Maranello spares I haven’t been able to find anything which contradicts this.

Ricambi America is one of the best sites for accuracy:
USA version (Fahrenheit):
https://www.ricambiamerica.com/car-diagrams/ferrari/v6-v8/355-group/f355-m5-2-1996/instruments/168194-gauge-oil-water.html

 

Thanks for the reply Qavion.

I see your point re Maranello not being the factory..

So going by the official factory page you posted above..

What is the correct p/n for an Australian delivered manual gate F355 ?
192 or 194..?

 

168194 is FAHRENHEIT and LB/IN (0,70,140) measurement
168192 is CENTIGRADE and BAR (0,5,10) measurement

 

correct. the only difference is the letter on the fascia.

 

See Daniel's (?) response (aka Ricambi). Last time I checked, Australia uses Celcius.

USA and UK still use Fahrenheit. Not sure about Canada and a few of the other former British Empire countries.

I had a look through some old photos of the rear of the instruments, but can't see any distinguishing marks (or know which are my own photos).

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Thats awesome work guys.. many thanks for clearing that up..

 

As part of the sticky fix of my interior I had to take apart the my gauge so I could have the dress rings and gauge surround refinished .
Here are some photos of the combined meter disassembled ( p/n 168192)

Whilst researching the combined oil/water meter I also came across the combined Gear/water temp gauges for the F1 F355 variant.
The P/N for these is 174891 and 174892.

It appears from the photos that both the "F1" and "Non F1" versions of the meter and non F1 of the meter share the same "black top half" ( ie black gauge surrounds , x2 perspex glass, and silver dress rings).

If this is the case then they are interchangeable across all variants of the gauge ( both F1 and non F1)

Has anyone taken apart a F1 version of the gauge in the past that can confirm this ..?




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