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Discussion in '348/355' started by Robb, May 19, 2015.

  1. MAD828

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    I did not look at the pics but the windshield trim can appear chrome even when OEM. The surface is anodized and susceptible to wear over the years of the elements and or harsh cleaning products. The surface underneath is chrome in appearance.
     
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  3. audi_328

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    I'm not sure that's the case. The trim is similar to a "black chrome", in some photos it comes across as bright chrome, but it's not. I thought I'd read here the jury is out whether it's replacement or not, as I thought several members here believed their windshields to be original with that trim (my own car, a 95B, included).
     
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  4. MAD828

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    Also the vin plate is present in the door jam.
     
  5. MAD828

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    The chrome comes through over time as the anodizing wears thin. My 1995 is similar, and factory original.
     
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    Makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
     
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  8. RonHoward

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    You guys are detectives. I'm trying to look at these pictures and come up with any reason it may have been hit. Nothing is really jumping out at me
     
  9. Targatime

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    I find posts like this really irresponsible. I have a pretty good eye for this stuff and I don't see a single thing on that car suggesting the seller is concealing accident damage. You're basically accusing someone of fraud, but you think faded anodizing is chrome plating. So you actually have no idea what you're talking about. What's going to happen is someone will post this thread in that auction's comments and it could cost the seller thousands of dollars, even tens of thousands. Please do the right thing and delete your comments.
     
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  10. Culprit

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    Agreed. No need to tear apart every car that isn't concours level. Us owners should encourage new buyers looking to join the club -- the F355 is entering the age where some of them need a bit of restoration and to some that is part of the appeal.
     
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  11. tres55

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    Sorry guys. Just pointing out what Im seeing.

    The vin plate is there, but the sticker barcode that's usually present by the door strike is not. Suggests to me it was painted on that side.

    There is visible over spray in the rear engine compartment in one of the photos, albeit minor.

    The left side air intake box looks to be flaking or repaired/repainted poorly.

    I'll admit I wasn't aware the window trim deteriorates to a chrome like finish...that's news to me. However, there is a pretty clear and visible dime sized chip in one of the photos as well. Windshields for these aren't cheap from what I recall...so I think it's fair for me to point out for whoever is looking.

    Besides that, it's a nice car. It's a driver. At 22-23k miles though I've seen better with twice the miles. That's all I'm saying. If they wanted to sell the car here on fchat I wouldn't be picking it apart...but they chose an auction which can be difficult for buyers to get a PPI or visual inspection done before it's too late.

    Let's just say I would buy this car for myself...but I would take all of this into consideration with my max bid.
     
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  13. tres55

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    Also I'm not claiming the seller is hiding anything. I've been digging at 355s for 5+ years now so just stating oddities I've spotted. I would hope any one of you that know more than I do would do the same.
     
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  14. Ferrari Fanatic

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    Guys, I can see both sides of this “argument”. I have to agree with @tres55 on the VIN bar code though. That’s really odd and would trigger me to ask additional questions as well.

    There are enough unknowns and surprises for some 355’s owners.

    I have owned two 355’s for a total of 18 years. So here is my .02: some cover ups are easy to fix, ie dying seats. Back in 2003 when these cars were only a few years young, most buyers would say, umm your seats have been re dyed. I know so because they now look perfect and I also know this because there is dye on the stitching. So sellers found and used one local guy that could dye the seat without altering the original stitching.

    Some people will go to any length to cover something up. The missing bar code is much harder to cover up.

    Nobody knows unequivocally if the car has been hit and repainted. But the missing bar code is odd. Perhaps someone with an account could post that question.
     
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  15. johnk...

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    I understand covering up mechanical things or accident damage but what's the issue with seats being redyed, or how about a front/rear/ bumper or rocker repaint? How is that different than refinishing sticky parts? If a guy spends the time and money to do these thing correctly, that a plus in my book. What about a car that had a full, bare metal repaint? Where do you draw the line between hiding and restoring? Bottom line is honesty. But do you really need to say, "The driver's seat bolster was redyed"?
     
  16. ShineKen

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    It’s hard enough in today’s market finding a manual Berlinetta. One might have to lower their standards and deal with the issues on his own.

    If you really want the car, you’d have to make the effort to go see it in person.
     
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  17. Skippr1999

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    Or buy a much nicer F1
     
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  18. ShineKen

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    ... and convert it to manual? :)
     
  19. Ferrari Fanatic

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    Nothing wrong with dying seats.

    Well my only point related back to tres55’s comment about the BAR Code sticker missing.

    My point was that I agree with Tres55. There is something a bit strange that there is no bar code.
    If the car was repainted someone would need to contact Ferrari and ask for another bar code or recreate one. Neither of which seems as easy to do than redying a bolster. One could replicate a bar code sticker I guess but would they take that chance.

    Meaning I personally think he is right that their was some paint work done. Just a personal opinion.
     
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  20. Ferrari Fanatic

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    Poor tres55 was labeled as a detective. Well I thought he was a pretty good one.

    Anyway, everyone has a different methodology.

    It’s all good. These issues probably don’t bother most people ( and frankly cause themselves less stress). Again, all good.
     
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  21. tres55

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    Can't even find an F1 Berlinetta these days! Let alone a nice one. Ha
     
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  22. Matt Andrews

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    Yeah. I was just starting my search when the dark red on speed lines came up for sale. I didn’t call on it. Now I regret that.
     
  23. Jackie and bill

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    I read that said post this morning (uk) and thought mmm. . Every time a post like that gets posted it can sully a possibly good car. As well as mud sticking a fabricated forum story can follow a car around in the ferrari world.
    Then some were down the line some one mentions that the car has possibly been crashed, and the story gets bigger and bigger. We all should know what forums are like, people only read the bits they want and run with it.
    Just my thoughts.
     
  24. Targatime

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    This is incoherent. "Everyone has a different methodology"? For doing what? And "it's all good" doesn't make it so, even if you repeat it twice. It's not "all good" if you're selling a Ferrari that someone is claiming on a well-read Ferrari forum has been in a major accident.
     
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    FYI I have listed my very well sorted '95 GTB in the classifieds section. Would love to see it go to another fchatter!
     
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  26. 355dreamer

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    If I was gonna buy another yellow 95 355, this would be the one...
     
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  27. tres55

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    Agreed 100%

    I'm on the hunt for a darker shade of red/blue/green or I would've bought it without hesitation.
     
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  28. tres55

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    #4300 tres55, Jan 4, 2021
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    And for all of you upset about my criticisms of the car posted, besides the window trim...where am I wrong? So what's the deal here? You guys all friends of the seller?

    I looked the photos over before it was even posted here.

    Also someone above claims I'm saying it was a major accident. I am not...but it seems pretty clearly evident there was something that required that repaint.
     

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