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Discussion in '348/355' started by Robb, May 19, 2015.

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  1. ttforcefed

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    I got the 200 number directly from him
     
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    She on Fchat (previous owner)? Would love to hear her story.
     
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    Sold 1-2 months too early. Market got hot after my FOMO rant :p
     
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    Thanks Tre55. let me sort out a few things and we'll talk. My good friend in Italy sent me a bunch of F355 listings. He has imported a lot of car to Canada. It' about $10K taxes and shipping to Canada.
     
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  6. ShineKen

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    Is he near Rome by any chance?
     
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    Tres55, No near Napoli, close to Salarno. A place called San Mauro de La Bruca. He here in Canada now. Goes back in August.
    Seller contacted me moved $5K on the price. Looks like we can negotiate. Time to spend the energy asking all the questions now. Wish me luck
     
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    Sorry Tre55 I meant its about $10K. This is for taxes and shipping.
     
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    Here a Ferrari Market item that will effect us all. Just got an email from Eurospares: Ferrari is raising the prices on all Ferrari parts, effective May 3, and, of course, it will be passed on to the buyers. So, maintenance cost will be raising. How will this effect the over all car market?
     
  11. rob lay

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    larger margin in prices cars taken care of vs. not. I know so many Ferrari owners that put off majors on belt cars and other maintenance because it was too expensive 20 years ago, now especially so! a great major on a 355 is now $10k.
     
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    Damn.
     
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    I'm guilty of putting off belt changes, not because of cost, but because they, IMO, aren't necessary on the excepted schedule. On the other and, when there is an issue with my cars, I fix it immediately. CV boots, motor mounts, spark plugs, plugs wires, headers, cats, etc, can all be serviced with the engine in, As well as clutch, brakes and other things.

    But I will argue, a 355 major is only $10k if you defer fixing things like I listed along the way. I would say $10k for major indicates lots of ignored issues.
     
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    Group buy on 355 major kit anyone??
     
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    We need to instill the narrative major’s aren’t 3 years. More like 7 years, which is probably the avg time someone keeps a car before trading it for something else. Getting Tubi headers is also key :).
     
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    I disagree, if you are doing things out of schedule, then yes there might be less things on the major. If you do everything on schedule, then you shouldn't have to do as much in-between. If you are DIY then keeping an eye and doing as you see it is good and fun. If you have a pro do it, I would rather have them do everything at once as less trips and down time.

    So if you are doing everything and in USA (Europe/UK cheaper), then using a respected shop and doing everything on a major is $10k. There are of course cheaper shops that is possible to do as good of a job and then there are dealers who are more experienced with the newer cars that might even be more. I'm lucky to have Norwoods Auto Italia who has performed near 500 majors on 355's plus all of their other experience. They aren't the cheapest, but cheaper than many others and certainly more experienced.

    FYI I agree belts aren't a straight up time line as the factory recommends. Rarely do they ever break, I think majors are more about the complete picture and showing future buyers your care. I will give more worth to a car the prior owner didn't spare any expenses and kept a factory schedule. Easy to tell the ones that skimped and that creates questions and risks.
     
  17. Targatime

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    Eh. Doing a major every three years in the era of Hill tensioner bearings is throwing money away on behalf of an abstract principle ("keeping the factory schedule") that has been made archaic by improved technology.
     
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    A major should include all belts, tensioner bearings, plugs if needed (miles not, time) fluids (oil, gearbox, AC recharge, brake fluid), air filters (miles, not time) oil filter. And frankly anyone who can't change the air filter and plugs themself should own a Ferrari. If they care to let the shop do it, OK. Now, anything else that needs to be done, other than maybe a water pump, is neglect. I've gone 8 years 11k miles since my car had a major. Ever issue that has come up has been addressed. The car hasn't seen a shop. It has been neglected less than any car that need a $10k major. I guess I could have waited until the car went in for a major and paid $5k for the major plus $7k for the Tubis and another $600 or $700 to install them and have a $13,6k major, but that not the cost of the major. That's the cost of neglect.

    I see these rediculous claims for the cost of a major only to find out the guy had a brake job, new tires, clutch replace, new cats, bumpers painted...... I guess if you want to brag about how much spent on a major much you wait and defer things until you need a belt change. That's not how I play the game. I don't fix things that aren't broke and things that are broke get fixed immediately.

    And then there are the guy's who drink the cool aid and when the tech says you need this or that they just say OK and do it. Guess how many time I've been told I should change the water pump on my 308? Doesn't matter. I've always said no and at 36 years old it's still pumping and not leaking. The 355, according to the records also has the original WP, never rebuilt of replace.
     
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    no one ever said majors are 3 years! I'm coming from the 328 world, but isn't the 355 similar 7 years or 30k miles? that's why it is called the 30k major, there is a service in-between no belts.
     
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    $10k is the standard for required items major. mine is $17k with all those extra things.

    you can always cut corners and I give complete credit to those DIY. however, when it comes to the market there will be recognition you did the major because you haven't done 500 of them before.
     
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    That was the narrative many years ago. I think the new narrative from Ferrari is 5 years. The Ferrarichat narrative is 7 years. If you ask John60k, it’s 10 years :)

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/news/amp15356898/ferrari-f355-buyers-guide-what-you-need-to-know-about-values-problems-and-more/

    “But one inevitability is having to replace the timing belt every three years, which can cost $7000 to $9000 because it requires that the engine come out. ”
     
  22. rob lay

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    That's just stupid, a C&D article saying 3 years? Ohh gawd, that has NEVER been the narrative on FerrariChat! We don't have our heads up our ass and know what we're talking about.
     
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    7 years.....
     
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    Car and Driver no good? How about a Ferrari dealership?

    https://www.ferrarisanfrancisco.com/blog/2013/december/24/ferrari-timing-belt-replacement.htm

    “Ferrari factory guidelines for timing belt replacement with Ferrari Genuine Parts are as follows. Every 36 months or 30,000 miles, whichever occurs first, for the following models: Ferrari F348, Ferrari F355 Berlinetta and F355 Spider, Ferrari 360 Berlinetta and 360 Spider, Ferrari 456, Ferrari 550 Maranello, and Ferrari 575 Maranello. Every 60 months or 30,000 miles, whichever comes first, for Ferrari 612 and Ferrari 575 Maranello* (*after assembly number 43847).”
     
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    #5775 johnk..., Apr 30, 2021
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    8 years now. Well, 8 and a spring start up, but I'm only 11k miles into the 15k miles allowed. Maybe I can go 12 or 13. :D

    Oh God. I just read that blog from Ferraro of San Fran. 30k miles. I got plenty of time!

    Considering how may Chevy V8s we blew up back in the 60's racing Corvettes I don't worry about it. Nothing that can be fixed.
     
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