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  1. Qavion

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    I may have difficulty with this one. My yellow wires run to the right, not to the left. Also, I don't have a US/Can/Jap car, so no OBD port. In hindsight, you probably should have posted this message thread on the F355 forum where you probably get more F355 owner attention. The wire is hard to see in the photo. What colour is it? I only recall having 3 yellow wires ziptied together. Two of the 3 were spliced/heatshrunk together before reaching the filter.

    i.e. shown in the diagram:

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    I've changed the yellow wire colour to "gold" to make it easier to see.
     
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    The wiring hookup for plug 59014 is shown in the 5.2 diagram I posted. There should be 7 wires in total.

    Violet, green, grey (with red stripe), violet (with black stripe), grey, black and red.
    green and violet (with black stripe) are the left hand speaker wires (wiring goes to the tweeter first).
    Grey (with red stripe) is live battery power
    Violet and grey are right hand speaker wires (wiring goes to the tweeter first)
    Black is ground.
    Red is power for the antenna preamp (possibly under the RH air outlet on top of the dash)

    It looks like you're missing the black ground wire.... unless that "speaker wire" in your hand is a ground.
     
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    So, the yellow wire(s) by the OBD connection is independent of the radio wiring issue (I think). I thought it was part of it, but now I'm thinking it isn't because of its location. The strange part is that cut yellow wire looks EXACTLY the same as the yellow wire on the radio harness. Both are yellow with brown colored bands on it. I can't imagine that it was connected at some point. But I'm going to crawl under the dash and have another look.

    The black wire is there. I must've missed it when taking the picture.
     
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    #54 Qavion, Feb 4, 2025
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    Another possibility is that your car was wired up differently to mine. Since the Sony unit is designed to accept ACCessory power on pin 2 (of the Sony 18 pin plug), you may want to check to see any of those yellow wires have accessory power (i.e. not powered at all times).

    Look for a yellow wire (radio specific) coming from your steering column connector.
     
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    The accessory wiring of your ignition switch should go to a rectangular plug at the base of your steering column leather shroud. On the car side of the plug (not the steering wheel side), there should be some yellow (with black stripe) wires. See USA version:



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    See GN (yellow/black). If you could splice a wire onto one of these yellow/black wires and feed it to pin 2, that would be perfect.

    I'll modify my diagram shortly...
     
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    I went back to the car and took a pic showing the wires, and included the black wire this time.

    I also crawled back under the dash and yanked on that one random speaker wire... it's connected to a 7.5a fuse block and then the other side of it is spliced into a blue wire! I'm guessing that was for power to the aftermarket radio maybe? See pics below.
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    Hmmm..... Possibly. Blue wires on the F355 can be key power wires (RUN, not ACC)
     
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    Disregard my possible modifications. It's getting too complicated. You've chosen to rewire the unused plug into the circuit. I don't know if the unused plug would need live battery power or Acc power. Even though the plug is not used, I don't know if that would cause complications for future owners.
     
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    Just had another look at your photo:

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    The blue wire may actually be a Ferrari light blue wire ("A" Italian colour code). This colour can be associated with ACCessory power. It depends where the wire is spliced. There is a light blue wire on the steering wheel side of the steering column connector.
     
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    Here's how I would have wired up your car to match the Sony diagrams:

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    The ACC power source would have come from the ignition lock wiring (car side).
     
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    I just want to make it stock/OEM again. I think I should remove that spliced in speaker wire. That would solve the mystery issue for that wire.

    The yellow wire with the brown bands is the next puzzle to be solved. Because right now as it stands, I can physically solder in the original connector to those wires in the dash and that should be sufficient to plug the proper wiring harness for the radio into it. If I can't find the 15 amp fuse block for the yellow wire on the radio harness, I'm kind of stuck. I'll have to try to buy a new harness from Ferrari and hope it's right. But at least the connectors on the car side will be correct. I just need to solve that cut yellow wire. I took a closer look at it and it does not look like they were connected. I'm wondering if that's where that 15 amp fuse block is and it's hidden somewhere under the dash. I need to dig a little more to see where they go.
     
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    Now THAT makes sense!!! I can buy that harness and cut the filter and 3a fuse holder out and splice them into my oem harness. NICE!!! A) No idea how you found that, even the other day.... lol! And B) It says it's not available. Where else can I find it? Preferably in the US?
     
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    Correction! I read the site wrong. It's IN STOCK and I CAN order it.... yay!
     
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    Well, would you look at what I found...... Sometimes it pays to dig!!! (See pic)

    Now the only thing I should need is a 3a fuse holder, which isn't even necessary because it goes to the plug that's not being used.

    Correct?
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    How do I know which wire on the choke box goes to which connector? The yellow wires are the exact same color...
     
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    Another question: You have two different wiring schematics that you made up (which are extremely helpful BTW!). One has a splice for the red and yellow wire to go to the unused plug, and the other has the red wire going to ground/ACC. I saw in one of your pics that the yellow wire does have a splice in it, but I don't know where it goes. (see pic)

    Which schematic is correct? Or maybe one is correct for your car and mine is wired up a different way being I'm in the US?
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    #68 Qavion, Feb 4, 2025
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    Nope. Not on my car. Here is my wiring diagram (OEM):

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    Hard to see but live power comes from plug 59014 (pin 3) on a yellow wire. It arrives at a splice (the one in the photo you labelled "Where does it go"). The splice feeds:
    1) the RF choke/fusebox (RH wire in the photo of the opened black box)
    2) a second splice which feeds the unused connector and the 3 amp fuse. The 3 amp fuse feeds pin 2 of the Sony unit.

    The yellow wire going to the black box goes through the choke and fuse (although I don't know which comes first, I didn't check) and filtered power comes out of on the other yellow wire to pin 1 of the Sony unit.

    When you fit the choke/fuse box, splice the yellow wires into the circuit. I wouldn't solder the wires to the box internally. There are some giant solder blobs holding the wires in. You may melt something you're not supposed to melt if you soldered the yellow wires internally.
     
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    I posted this magnified diagram earlier (of my wiring):

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    G = giallo = yellow

    For some reason, both pins 1 & 2 receive live battery power.... except the pin 1 voltage seems to carry a lot more current and is filtered. All the power comes from frunk fuse 4 on my car.
     
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    Ok, that makes sense. I don't plan on soldering anything in the box as the wires are still attached to the box. The P/O just cut them.

    I have a new 3a fuse link coming today and I'll splice everything back together per your diagram and post a pic before I install the radio.

    Am I right in this pic below about which wire goes where? I assume it's directional and can't be reversed......

    You should have heard me scream last night when I was under the dash and located that choke/fuse box. lol!!! What a relief it was to find that!!! :)
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    Correct.

    I just wish I knew why both pins (1 & 2) get live battery power. Sony didn’t design it this way, but your wiring seems to match mine. There seems to be no wires heading towards the ignition lock. Did you inspect the plug wiring at the base of the steering column? i.e. the plug with really thick wires, not the plug with wires related to wipers/washers.
    Having both pins live means that, in theory, the radio won’t turn off when you turn off the car.

    Have you thought about installing bullet connectors on the yellow wires to allow easier modification?

    I’ll play around with my radio later today to see if I can get it to work. It may just need turning on from the front panel.
     
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    TBH, I don’t think it matters. There are no diodes or transistors in there.
     
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    I didn't inspect the plug by the steering column. Not even sure what I'd be looking for. I just want to turn this back to stock so it works properly. I didn't do any bullet connectors because soldering is the best in my opinion and I want it to hold. I don't want any chances of things not making good contact. My 3 amp fuse block came in today so I soldered everything back together. Take a look and let me know you think.
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    Looks good. Having said that, I didn't check the wiring going to the unused plug, but as long as the wire colours matched, it should be ok.

    Would it be possible for you to take a photo of the location of the USA choke/fuse mounting position for future reference? Or is it buried too deeply in the dash?
     

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