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F355 Spider Fire Extinguisher

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  1. Maeter

    Maeter Karting

    Nov 13, 2001
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    Could somebody explain where to mount a fire extinguisher in 1998 F355 Spider? I am worried that attaching the extinguisher to the passenger seat will impact their movement when lowering the top resulting in problems with the soft top. It also seems that the "behind the seat" option does not work as the soft top mechanism goes quite low inside the car. Pictures would be appreciated.

    Thank you in advance.

    Pascal
     
  2. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    See thread below; should'nt have much effect when hoods is put up/down.
    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3135&highlight=355+fire+extinguisher
     
  3. Merdav

    Merdav Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2004
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    This set up is for a non-spider, it seems to attach to the manual seat adjuster. The spider seats are electric and doesn't have that black bar. I've been trying to find a good place for a f-extinguisher also, anyone else succesfully do this please let us know.
     
  4. richard_wallace

    richard_wallace Formula 3

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    I put mine on my 355 Spider - in front of the Gear shifter (12 inches or so) just where the carpet meets the leather of the center counsel (kindof going under the dash - but easy to reach if necessary). I have the small chrome one (8 inches) - that is the best place I could find to put it and not have it interfere with anything. I used industrial velcro to secure it - that way I could remove it or move it if I didn't like where it is.

    PS. I have had many comments on it - everything from great placement - to "is that NOS" :) - It does look a little like a NOS bottle
     
  5. Merdav

    Merdav Formula Junior

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    I figured if I had a fire in the car my first thought would be to get the hell out. So instead of mounting one in the cockpit, I thought I could open the truck lid on the way out which made mounting option much easier. Kitchen fire extinguisher TYPE B & C, from Ace Hardware, $10.99 with mount. I just use on of the exsisting screws in the trunk already.
     
  6. 993 guy

    993 guy F1 Rookie

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    Hey Michael you may want to go with Halon instead of Dry Chemical. If god forbid you do have a small incident, you don't want Dry Chemical all over your engine bay or interior...you'll never be able to get it out. Just my .02 of course, but I've always run with Halon in my Porsches. No need to use it yet though...knock on wood! ;-)
     
  7. Merdav

    Merdav Formula Junior

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    Dear 993 guy, please read the following:

    However, due to the fact that halons deplete the ozone layer, halon users are encouraged to consider replacing their halon system and making their halon stock available for users with more critical needs. :) You think they mean Ferraris?
     
  8. 993 guy

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    Must be! Who else is more important? ;-)
     
  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    There are two good solutions that I know of. One is to fabricate a mount that attaches it to the seat rails at the front of the seat so that it will travel for and aft with the seat. The other is to mount it next to the passenger seat between the seat and the door. Halon is best (if the tree huggers complain, remind them that an uncontrolled car fire is very environmentally unsound), but dry chemical is OK. If you are attending the track event at the national meet this year remember that it needs to be at least 2 1/2 pounds, needs to be within the drivers reach, and needs to be securely mounted by a metal strap(when we inspect cars, we grab them and shake them and try to pull them off). If you have ever seen an object that size and weight come loose in a severe accident you understand why. Yes, we define next to the pass. seat as within the drivers reach.
     
  10. FL 355

    FL 355 Formula 3

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    Maeter - Right next to the drivers seat (door side) and behind against the firewall to the engine. There is a "hump" and it can rest on that. I did a post on old F-Chat with Pix. I'll take a pix and post this weekend - Fits perfectly and does not interfere with top / seat operation. I also had a case made for it that matches the carpet. It stays in place by itself or you can velcro....However, if you want to track your car, you will be required to have a bolt in system.
    Frank
     
  11. Doody

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    i'd think this would be contraindicated for the spider since the forward seat motion for the automatic droptop process pushes that seat WAY forward. i'd want to be super-extra-sure you had the clearance first.


    on the face of it, this is silly. maybe there's some underlying win, but this smacks of silly.

    my understanding is that some volume X of halon was een produced on planet earth and that's supposed to have stopped now. however, there's a substantial volume of halon still extant. there's apparently no easy or affordable way to neutralize it, so it's being recycled into extinguishers and other fire supressant systems.

    what exactly is a "more critical need" than my car on fire on the side of the road? or on fire in my garage, threatening my children who sleep on the floor above the car?

    sure - i wouldn't use my halon extinguisher to put out a campfire (well, unless it was out of control and threatening to start an N thousand acre brush fire maybe).

    but you see my point - that's kinda silly advice.

    either halon is more harmful than any possible benefit it could provide in which case it should be neutralized or stored away forever like nuclear waste - or it's not and it's being used very responsibly by recycling it for use in extremely dangerous situations - such as car fires.

    again, i don't know the science involved, but i fail to see where and how they're drawing this "critical" distinction.

    doody.
     
  12. FL 355

    FL 355 Formula 3

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  13. richard_wallace

    richard_wallace Formula 3

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    The only problem if you put it behind the seats - with a spider - with the top down and the boot cover thing on - you won't be able to get to it quickly without undoing the boot cover... In the front at a quick reach position is best... I see a lot of people putting it in the bonnet/trunk area - good if you have two - but I would always have one in the cabin - in case you can't get to the one in the trunk.
     
  14. FL 355

    FL 355 Formula 3

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    Richard - it's not behind the seat...it's off to the side. Boot snaps on without touching it. If you move the seat all the way back it will be on the side. Pix is not the best. Bought it at my local marine center. If you have a spider try it....it will just "rest" there by itself. I placed velcro on the extenguisher only and it holds to the carpet. Very clean and holds up to hard breaking, cornering, etc. I did it about 2 years ago and it has never failed me. I also keep one in the trunk in the same location as previously mentioned in this thread.
     
  15. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

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    As stated ealier, I mount them on the center consoul foward of the shifter (nozzle facing rearward). This piece of consoul comes out quite easy, allowing for 5mm bolts and fender washers on the underside. As Brian stated, anything comming loose in the cockpit in a collision has horrible effects! Halatron is the new Enviro Safe agent. Beyond the mess that the dry chem makes, once water is applied to wash it off, it turns to an acid! Must be neturalized and alcohol used to break the surface tension........ First hand knowledge trying to clean up a 360 that had 2 bottles emptied on it, PITA to say the least. Acid and aluminum= bad stuff! Halon is used in aircraft and computer applications because it is a gas that displaces oxygen and leaves no residue what so ever. Halatron bottles can be had from the Grainger catolog, and the come with a metal strap mount (2.5# bottle, metal strap, and metal nozzle) All under $100. From reading the description in the catalog you would think a seperate mount must be ordered, but this is not ther case.
    Dave
     
  16. richard_wallace

    richard_wallace Formula 3

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    Cool - I see/visualize what you are talking about...
     

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