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F40 Door Panel Scratches

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  1. cirugiadigestiva

    cirugiadigestiva Formula Junior

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    #1 cirugiadigestiva, Jan 4, 2014
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    I´m an owner of a Ferrari F40 and the door panels in the car has got scratches and deep swirls. I´m aware that they are unrecoverable but I would like know if anyone has a solution on this problem.
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  2. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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  3. Bill S

    Bill S Formula 3

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    That's easily repaired by a paint specialist. I fixed worse.
     
  4. Napolis

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    If they are scratches in the surface coating re coating them isn't a big deal BUT if the CF is separating from the coating and loose you need a CF shop with an autoclave to repair it.
     
  5. ApexOversteer

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    ... and once repaired, clear wrapping the panels will keep them from getting scratched again...
     
  6. bassrebel

    bassrebel Formula Junior

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    I Just sent you a PM, I don't know if you got it. But there's someone in Valencia that can repair that or make you a new one. He's currently working on making a pair of panels for an f40. Send me an email to [email protected] and I'll give you his phone number.

    Thanks
     
  7. Compositi AS

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    Hello , I work with composite materials and can offer the opportunity to repair the panel , but I think the best choice is to restore both panels , because otherwise you can see the difference between the panels.
    When the panels are restored,they will be like New.
    If you want,send me a message and i'll give you more information.Thanks
     
  8. nickm

    nickm Formula Junior

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    How do you address the "milky" look the actually resin seems to get over the years?
    Seems like it'd be best to just make a new set. Also, I've noticed that the CF panel
    can be quite wavy/distorted over the years. Nothing that I know of, can correct that.
     
  9. Jean-Claude

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    Carbon fiber surfaces can be restored with typical paint correction techniques. Typically, you will have far more workable surface on bare carbon fiber surfaces than on painted surfaces.

    The tough part is finding someone qualified to restore such surfaces without leaving sanding marks, holograms or haziness. It is time consuming to properly work all the way to all edges on panels that have complex curves while not creating new damage and many folks will rush that project.
     
  10. Jean-Claude

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    cirugiadigestiva, would you mind posting some detailed and well-lit shots of the damage areas?
     
  11. cirugiadigestiva

    cirugiadigestiva Formula Junior

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    Yes absoluty we send a new pictures with the areas
     
  12. cirugiadigestiva

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  13. Georgescott

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    That's normal wear at times, sometimes it's best to leave these things untouched and it gives the car more character. How many miles does your car have?
     
  14. cirugiadigestiva

    cirugiadigestiva Formula Junior

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    32.000 km, few few tracks days, perfect maintenement
     
  15. patata

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    Francisco, do you ask to Kike from APT perfomance? This will be removed sanding and polishing and at worst applying new clearcoat ;)
     
  16. Jean-Claude

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    Those scratches can be outright completely repaired or, at worst, mostly repaired without respraying anything.

    Here are some examples of heavy scratches in carbon fiber being restored without respraying:
    (set to highest quality and full screen)
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taI94aq3PJE]Carbon Fiber Permanent Swirl & Scratch Removal [/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN34B49KGyw]carbon fiber restoration[/ame]

    You should search to find someone that is qualified to repair the finish without respraying. I don't think anyone will disagree that preserving the original finish will be better for the value longterm than respraying. Beyond that, resprays rarely come out looking as good as the original product.

    When the subject is a f40, longterm value should be one of the priorities.
     
  17. mechaniker

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    Problem: the ZR1 has clear laquer on the Carbon, so easy restoration. The F40 Panels are in best case with Gelcoat! This can be polished quite good, but if it is"only" resin, than it could be too thin to be resurfaced to a flawless finish.
     
  18. Jean-Claude

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    #18 Jean-Claude, Jan 10, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2014
    Not a problem with you can measure the depth with a paint thickness gauge that works on composite surfaces. Gelcoats are much thicker than clear coats and are less likely to be damaged as well. I'd rather repair gelcoat than clear coat that is 25 microns thick. Being a handmade part means it is probably very thick.

    I do agree that "flawless" may not be possible. But in either case, it will probably look amazing overall and remain original. Owners understand minimal wear on an automobile that is not a bubble car. They don't like resprays generally though.
     
  19. frefan

    frefan F1 Veteran

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    I wouldn't try too hard for flawless; mine has factory red paint overspray. F40 wasn't built that well ;)
     
  20. Jean-Claude

    Jean-Claude Karting

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    Preservation of what was original is ideal. I was more talking about removal of those gnarly scratches. ;)

    If overspray is removed, just rattle-can it. :p
    (just kidding for anyone not sure)
     
  21. mechaniker

    mechaniker Formula Junior
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    Than we speak of the same!
     

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