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  1. Gilles82

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  2. Tonysyri

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    Do you still have your F40 luggage set available?
     
  3. Tonysyri

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    Does anybody have a complete 3 piece luggage set for an F40 for sale?
     
  4. patknapp14

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    I have a beautiful 3 piece set of Schedoni Luggage for an F40. I will be posting it for sale in the classifieds section, but if anyone here is interested, please do not hesitate to PM me!

    Thank you!
     
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    Pat @patknapp14 , old post I know...still have it?
     
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  7. Michael RPM

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    A friend of mine offered me a set recently. I should see if he still has it as it probably wouldn't be a bad investment.
     
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  8. ttforcefed

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    where are mint sets trading? 5k USD?
     
  9. tomgt

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    10y ago yes
     
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    $15,000 asking now....
     
  11. joe sackey

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    I believe that the original maker Schedoni will make you a brand new set of 3-piece F40 luggage with the car's chassis number embossed upon each piece, for less than that, and then you'll have a new set with the car's identity affixed upon it which will not have interior lining that flakes into powder.
     
  12. Albert-LP

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    #88 Albert-LP, Sep 19, 2019
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    No, Joe: Schedoni cannot reproduce any set. They are produced under Ferrari license. The suitcases are "Ferrari by Schedoni" and not "Schedoni by Ferrari" and so they cannot be sold by Schedoni directly, you must buy them from Ferrari.

    Nobody can put a prancing horse nor a Ferrari model name on anything unless they are Ferrari official products that Ferrari sells directly.

    Any reproduction would lower the value of the original suitcase sets, so it would damage who has one (or many), like me: Ferrari legal office wouldn't be very happy to know that there is anyone that reproduces an official Ferrari set, whoever he is.

    The set is rare, most of F40 produced hasn't it: almost 1000 cars produced lack it, the F40 is a very important car so its luggage set prices are high.

    ciao
     
  13. ttforcefed

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    good to know!
     
  14. joe sackey

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    Yes, Alberto, Schedoni can & will reproduce F40 luggage and sell either via Ferrari or directly to the client, complete with Ferrari & F40 logos, they are so authorized to do so as official concessionaires.

    I have had this done myself for F40 85596.

    My client has had this done for F40 87400 (below) recently.

    An FChatter has done this https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f40-luggage.367306/

    The reason some people requested Schedoni to remake the luggage is they didn't want luggage with the name of the first owner on it, instead they opted to have the VIN number of the car placed upon it

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  15. Albert-LP

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    Joe, I think you are doing some confusion between "re-making a damaged set you own" and "build a new set for anyone that don't have one."

    ciao
     
  16. joe sackey

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    No, I am not confusing anything, we simply contacted Schedoni and they were happy to make a set for a car that never had luggage, this has been done multiple times by myself and a number of clients, as has been done by FChatter Ross as shown in the link above, the sets came with official Ferrari and F40 logos.
     
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  17. Albert-LP

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    #93 Albert-LP, Sep 20, 2019
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    He cannot, he is not allowed to. This is official. He won't do any in the future.



    Several years ago, I suppose. Now they cannot anymore: maybe once Ferrari "closed an eye", but this is impossible today. This is my opinion, I don't know facts.



    I have no Idea how this could have happened: Ferrari doesn't allow that. I don't know facts.



    I read in the thread linked that this happened 8 years ago (order made in 2011), I can undestand that (maybe) at the time a thing like that could happen. This is my opinion, I don't know facts.



    Yes, Schedoni can modify, repair, fixing, change the owner label, print the chassis number, rebuild the interior or the exterior of a suitcase or a set you have, with the prancing horse and so on. It's a service or a full restore, they are allowed to do that (of course).


    I think this an obvious think you should know by yourself: Ferrari brand is trademark and nobody can use it without its permission. You are a vintage car trader, it should be obvious for you. Otherwise Schedoni would open an online shop with all the vintage sets for sale...


    Yes, could be that in the past Schedoni, to help some “friend”, did something he had better don’t do: never saw that nor known in person, but I read here what you wrote and that’s the only explanation I have for that. This is my opinion, I don't know facts.

    But he won’t do it again in the future, this is “official”.

    I visited this morning Mr. Mauro Schedoni at his shop (we are friend), and he told me this:

    “We aren’t allowed to reproduce any vintage set: we won’t reproduce any vintage set. But we can fix every set, not quickly but just when we have some time to do that. Please note that the Sahara color interior lining is no more available so we cannot fix it as the original set was”

    Mauro greets all the forum members and will welcome anyone who would like to visit his shop.

    ciao



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    Above: Mauro at the cutting machine. I took this picture this morning, September 20, 2019, 10.56 AM CET


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    Above: Mauro's "customized" cutting machine. I took this picture this morning, September 20, 2019, 11.22 AM CET



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    Above: F40 official luggage set poster hanging at Schedoni shop.




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    Simone Schedoni (left), me (mid) and Mauro Schedoni (right) last July, Schedoni shop. Me and Mauro are showing a copy of the Japanese "Scuderia" Magazine talking of me and of my Schedoni collection.
     
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  18. joe sackey

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    On that note, let's move on.

    As far as I'm concerned, despite all the aforementioned 'official' claims, a VIP Ferrari customer who happens to own an F40 can still induce manufacture of the 3-piece luggage if desired as already proven, as with all things, if you have the right connections and sufficient means it can happen.
     
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  19. Albert-LP

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    #95 Albert-LP, Sep 23, 2019
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    In my opinion, you are not allowed to write his on a public forum: I forwarded Mr. Simone Schedoni this discussion. I already wrote what I know about that, so there is not anything to add.

    But le me say that I'm quite disappointed to read here that your tip for F4o owners is "to have one reproduced".

    What, are you suggesting reproductions? The period correct sand color dust covers are no more available and cannot be reproduced, the same for the Sahara interior lining. The result is that some of your customers now have a luggage set (very expensive, I suppose) that any Schedoni expert can say as a "not period correct set", as it has the wrong dust covers (the light yellow ones) and different interiors.

    This is very strange as usually an expert consultant tells you to go for original items and not reproductions.

    Only my personal opinion, of course.


    ciao
     
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  20. joe sackey

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    Oh do relax Alberto.

    The 2 main reasons why F40 owners have sought brand new luggage is firstly, many of the original sets had the original owner's name embossed upon the luggage, and many people don't want to own luggage with someone else's name and prefer to have the car's chassis number instead, secondly, the original luggage sets used poorly-treated Sahara lining that completely perishes and turns into powder destroying anything paced in the luggage, the new sets have nice leather lining, much better.

    If I bought another F40 which did not come with luggage, I would absolutely have a set made up by Schedoni, with the car's chassis number embossed, but in dark brown leather - see below- or perhaps even in red leather, Schedoni has done them in black leather as well.

    People upgrade their cars using new & improved components from the original maker, all the time, this is nothing new.

    By the way I'm allowed to write whatever I want on a public forum, especially when its a report of facts that actually happened as my posts above prove

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    Not all F40 luggage were embossed with the owners name.
    My set came without. Owner had two sets with his car, one with his name and one without.
    If someone is interested in this set, pm me
     
  22. joe sackey

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    Correct.

    I've seen original sets with no leather ID tag riveted on at all, with the original owner's name (most popular), and with the car's chassis number (rare).
     
  23. Albert-LP

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    The set didn't come with the owner's name: it was added just under request, as standard all sets were all without it (F40 or not). Everyone (with every model car set) could ask for some inscription.

    Here below a 308 set customized by Schedoni, a specific request of the owner

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  24. VetroresinaNL

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    Sort of the same with the Schedoni leather pouches, although I have never seen a pouch with the car's chassis number.
     

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