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  1. Rossocorsa1

    Rossocorsa1 F1 Veteran

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    I should start this thread with total transparency - I’m an unapologetic purist. Which is why I bemoan the amount of F40’s I see that are commonly modified, particularly exhaust systems. Of course, owners have every right to do as they wish with their private property, but why are F40 mods so common? Does it just seem that way simply because there were so many more produced compared to its other supercar counterparts? I seriously would like to understand this better. I get why people modify their Ferrari’s, though I personally don’t care for any of it, but I especially feel the supercar class should remain as intended by the factory (shortcomings and all). Would love to hear other opinions.
     
  2. ttforcefed

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    in the USA putting a tubi on is a must. because my car is platinum winner ive left the oem box on, but if you are going to drive it freeing up the exhaust is a no brainer for efficiency, extra hp, and sound. i do not consider an f40 with a tubi as being modified.
    LM builds are also very cool if you ask me.
     
  3. ross

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    an F40 without a tubi doesnt sound so great.
    an f40 with original brakes does not stop so well.
    and f40 with oem turbos vs LM turbos is not as fast.

    its just a matter of wanting the car to work better imo.
     
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  4. rmolke85

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    Euro cars with no cats sound great, these cars are plenty fast as-is and rebuilt brakes with modern pad and fluids will do JUST fine. Leave em stock for me.
     
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  5. Rossocorsa1

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    I agree. I appreciate why people choose to modify cars but I think they lose part (in some cases a lot) if their real passion. Certainly, there are many modern options that can be applied to classic and vintage cars that would improve their performance capabilities, such as brakes, etc. But, I still believe these great machines should be maintained as intended by the factory, even when OE is inferior compared to modern standards. These cars should be representative of the era in which they dominated.
     
  6. theunissenguido

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    and F40 with OEM fuseboard with often strike....
    Guido
     
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  7. ross

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    mine is a euro, and it may have sounded fine to begin with but now it sounds better.
    and if the rest of it was so good, then why did Michelotto offer parts, in period, to make it work better?

    we are not talking about putting fuel injection on a 275gtb.....we are talking about putting better parts on a car that were offered when the car was still being built.

    but to each his own.
     
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  8. Rossocorsa1

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    When I look at the other Ferrari supercars, I rarely (in fact, I can’t recall ever) see one modified. I’m sure there are exceptions (there always are) but they’re certainly very few and far between. I’m guessing, because of the production numbers of the F40, it made financial sense for third party providers to develop mods to offer to the ownership community (Tubi, for example).
     
  9. George Vosburgh

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    I completely agree, not to mention that modifying an F40 would be damaging an expensive investment.
     
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  12. ttforcefed

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    Modified f40s trade the same as stock onesZ having a tubi on an f40 Doesnt make it cheaper by any means. Most f40s don’t have aftermarket brakes.
     
  13. joe sackey

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    As a professional who trades these cars for a living I can assure you that statement is inaccurate.
     
  14. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Weren’t the f40 brakes decent anyways? I have seen TRs upgraded with them.


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  15. ttforcefed

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    Oh really? How much less does a car trade for if it has a tubi? Everything else being the same.
     
  16. Rossocorsa1

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    I would agree. While I think this pertains to all Ferrari’s, it’s especially true for the supercars. I think, because of their significance as the flagship cars during their respective eras, unmolested examples really stand out to the most discerning buyers.
     
  17. joe sackey

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    They are excellent, if you know how to use them, when you start driving gently apply your left foot on the brakes for the first couple of miles to get them warm, not only does the squeaking go away but then they can stop the car better than the brakes of pedestrian machinery around you so be careful, as with a race car, you have to stamp on them with deliberation and then they are super-effective.

    Dario Benuzzi can shed light ion this.

    None of my F40s gave me any braking concerns whatsoever with much road use.

    IMO people complain about them because they want to find excuses for modding their car, or haven't found out how they are supposed to be used.

    Of course a person is free to mod their property to their heart's content, but I prefer to take the position of the saying that a good worker never blames his tools ;)

    Sorry, I see you mean only the Tubi mod as opposed to modifications in general, if a Tubi-ied F40 comes wth the original exhaust there is no value difference.

    Correct, buyers generally do not want all the mods people have done done to brakes, suspension, fuel systems etc over the years, in fact many cars are having these reversed.
     
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  18. 275GTB

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    a lot of F40's with aftermarket exhaust come with the original all boxed up, if not it's no big deal they are regularly available used on ebay for around £2000. I bought one last year, and seen several offered cheaper than i paid since. Also have a friend that bought a brand new original OEM exhaust from Maranello, not cheap but not that expensive given it was new - from memory he paid £4800
     
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  19. Rossocorsa1

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    That’s good to know they are still available from the factory.
     
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  20. Rossocorsa1

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    Is the case for modifying the exhaust with a Tubi mainly about sound? Naturally, that’s a personal taste issue. I actually like the fact that the F40 stock sound is unique. While some cars may sound better, the F40 (and the 288) defiantly resonate differently due to their revolutionary power plants, which it should. It seems that aftermarket exhaust systems destroy that unique sound.
     
  21. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Thanks! Very informative! I can only hope and wish I am one day fortunate enough to drive one let alone own one!


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  22. joe sackey

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    Correct, and, as with the GTO is you remove the restriction you can entertain the people following you with a flame-throwing display.
     
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    And the reason I look so happy in the picture, here are the before pictures.....I spent 2 days hand polishing it, to return it to its former glory.

    I was slightly excited and amazed by the outcome, so much so that’s me running into the bedroom to show the wife, she was less amused and wondered where I had been for 2 days Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login


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  25. Rossocorsa1

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    Very nice, but I still would stick with stock.
     

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