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F40 on fast and loud

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Tokyo Drftr, Mar 26, 2013.

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  1. Rickenbach

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    That picture in the flat gray wrap is intriguing. Any more pictures?
     
  2. 4re308

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    I really did enjoy the show. In fact, I helped source and ship some needed parts for the F40 from T.Rutlands here in GA. Dennis and the guys were super cool and even sent me a signed t shirt for helping them out. I think the car looks great in black.
     
  3. 4re Nut

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  4. ross

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    i could only find parts 1-3...so maybe the somebody can direct me to the rest

    but my initial impressions
    - they spent waaaay too much on the wreck. like 4 times too much.
    - as soon as they start to mess with things like the dash etc, they are going off into an area where i dont think big money will want to buy it - so far from anything original that it basically becomes an f40 hotrod. i wouldnt buy it for the money they are looking for.
    - their target for cashing out is waaay too optimistic. they are taking pristine car at auction at pebble or scottsdale, and extrapolating it on their soon to be completely bastardized italorod, and will end up upside down.

    but its fund to watch :)
     
  5. rob lay

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    Much better and more original than the Linder F40.
     
  6. CRAIGF355

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    I will give the more original, but much better I don't thinks so. Linder F40 build was a fresh and clean build not a pull and twist and hammer job. The look of the gas monkey I like better it was different but the rebuilding of that car was bad.
     
  7. rob lay

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    the Linder car was heat treated, that's a good thing for many things in construction I guess.
     
  8. Exotica Motorsports

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    $900k offers, yea right and I assume the original investor bought it to keep the real sales price private. It would be funny to see them take it to an auction and the final bid be $350k which is probably what a rebuilt title F40 would go for.
     
  9. Renato

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    After seeing how it worked out, i.e. the original investor "deciding" to keep the car, I'm questioning the whole thing. It's possible that he originally bought it to repair and since it all seems staged the intiial purchase price of $400K may not have even been the real purchase price.
     
  10. kverges

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    You think? There is no way anyone went $650K+ into that car, but the participants shrewdly made the car famous and ostensibly worth $900K so I say good on them! I am going to bet the all-in number after product placements and so on is under $400K.
     
  11. 95spiderman

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    yes, we know 'reality' tv is totally scripted but this was an enjoyable series regardless.

    what kind of person buys this type car anyway? i would think majority f40 buyers want originality so theyre obviously out. track day guys usually not in market at this price point either. hotrodders not usually into foreign cars. who's left?
     
  12. fbrs2

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    #263 fbrs2, Jul 2, 2013
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    I'm not sure where you guys get your F40 values from, there are dozens of good cars for sale in europe offered at $550-650k, with crashed and repaired well under $400k.
     
  13. ross

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    usa/europe=apples/oranges until 2017
     
  14. joe sackey

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    As ross pointed out, most of the comments are based on USA values which are higher.
     
  15. fbrs2

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    #266 fbrs2, Jul 3, 2013
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    indeed. thanks for the explanation on the enzo thread. perhaps its worth getting a couple tucked away for 2017! :)

    once over 25 is the process of making US legal one of matching US specs or a paperwork exercise?
     
  16. joe sackey

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    At that point it'll be a matter of paperwork, but don't expect values of Eu/ROW cars to change simply because of that benchmark date in the USA. USA buyers will always prefer a USA car for reasons that have been discussed in the section many times. Having said all that, both USA & Eu/ROW cars appear to be increasing in value similarly at this point.
     
  17. ross

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    The difference being that after 2017, usa cars will only hold a premium in the usa. In other words, when an auction comes up, only the usa destined buyer will care what the car's original destination was.
     
  18. joe sackey

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    True.
     
  19. Romm

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    Haven't been on this forum in forever - I ended up getting a Noble M400 instead of a Ferrari F355. But after seeing the Gas Monkey F40 episode, I just had to come and see the response on this site lol.

    As I am sure many of you know, every exotic/classic car enthusiast forum is the same. When people modify their cars to what they want, purists jump on their asses and cry foul. It doesn't matter if its a Ferrari F40 or an old Ford Torino SCJ.

    Personally I thought the car came out awesome! I even like the headlights! Just think if you could pick this car up for a couple hundred grand cheaper than a good non-wrecked F40! I would just have to have the original seats back lol
     
  20. bart4u

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    I just viewed the show. So they bought the wrecked F40 for 400,000 and put 295,000 in expenses to fix it up and Hagerty says an average cost to buy a 1991 Ferrari F40 is in the ballpark of 680,000. The numbers are not adding up. This is a reality show I do not believe they are telling the truth. Why would any one in their right mind buy a wreaked F40 for that amount of money besides the fact they rebuilt the car not to stock. They lowered the car, they played with the turbo charger, The wheels were changed and they put in some ugly seats. If I was looking to buy a 1991 F40 I would not want a wrecked car and for that kind of money I personally would want the car to be stock as it came off the show room floor. The only time I would buy a wrecked car if it was very very rare. I would not put my trust into these Monkey guys welding pieces into the wrecked frame and cutting the motor mounts and re-welding them. I would pass on spending that kind of money. I would think you would have problems in the resale market or if you brought it to an auction to resale it. You have to upfront with the facts. I know it is a reality show and things are done for the TV show. I just do not think we do know the real facts with this Ferrari. It just gets me mad when I see someone try to hot rod a rare car like this. This is just my opinion. I am sure the true Ferrari collectors were not happy to see this kind of work done on a Ferrari F40. I do not see Wayne Carini's F40 shop doing this kind of work.
     
  21. Herblenny

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    I just saw the 2 episodes about the F40 and I just lost all respect for these guys. They stated that they had multiple offers of $900K for a rush, hack job, salvaged F40. Who in the right mind willing to spend $900k will buy a salvaged car?? Even if they are complete morons with money wouldn't buy a salvaged/ hack job car.. Also the body shop who suppose to have dialed in the car to 1mm spec and than have to chop up motor mounts and re-weld?? Yikes, This show is full of contradictions! Not only that, 1st episode stated they were going to get it certified by Ferrari which I highly doubt they did. As a car guy, I lost all respect for this BS fake show.
     
  22. ross

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    Where are the rest of the episodes?
     
  23. dmaxx3500

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    i heard this car was rebuilt by ferrari of houston,and they payed $280-290k for it,and one of the producers of the show paid for it
     
  24. rob lay

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    when? after fast and loud rebuilt it? all the shop scenes were Boardwalk Ferrari or Stuarts in Dallas.
     

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