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F40 value in the USA?

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  1. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    hello all

    what are the typical going prices for a straight "story free" F40 in the usa? A friend with multiples Fcars has asked me to search for a car for him. it seems like the euro cars are going for quite a bit less than the federal spec cars? why is this? he doesn’t want to go through the trouble of importing one from overseas and prefers a usa spec car for california.

    any leads on cars here in the states would be very much appreciated.

    thank you in advance.

    hf
     
  2. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    It seems low miles US F40s are going for $1.2M-$1.5m.

    Euro cars are rapidly raising. Very hard to find a clean and low miles euro F40 for less than $1.1M. They were going for $800k 6 months ago.
     
  3. I<3strippers

    I<3strippers Karting

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    Joe sackey is the guy you want
     
  4. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    those are close to the numbers he has quoted. I was to keep an eye out for a car under 800K.

    wasnt there a couple that auctioned off in that ball park a few months ago?
     
  5. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    For California, only a USA spec car is road-registrable.

    As regards finding a USA spec car for under $800k, that was possible about a year ago.
     
  6. jjmalez

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  7. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    thanks joe


    regards

    hf
     
  8. Georgescott

    Georgescott Formula Junior

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    Even high mileage examples are getting top dollar now, soon it'll reach a point where mileage doesn't matter.
     
  9. texasmr2

    texasmr2 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I recently spoke with a friend here in Houston who owned a F40. I mentioned to him that I was almost certain he would never sell but after I said that he said he recently sold his F40 because he was offered a price he could not refuse, based upon the escalating US prices for federalized versions I assume. I do not know what he purchased the car for or what he sold it for but I am certain he made a very handsome profit.
     
  10. Arjun

    Arjun Formula Junior

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    This^^^^

    In my quest for an F40, I spoke to several US owners in the past 6 months who purchased their cars when the bottom fell out in 2009 - 2010 for $370-400K but who now wouldn't let go of their cars for anything less than $1M.

    The market has fundamentally changed since last fall when high mileage/possibly dinged euro cars were sitting on dealer lots/on consignment forever for $500K (in current conversion rates) and are now being traded for $900K. US models which were $800K last fall are in excess of $1M now. Mileage has become irrelevant.

    Folks on the board made a lot of fun of the buyer of the Gas Monkey F40 for buying a wrecked but repaired car for $675K - turns out the jokes on them as you couldn't buy a car in similar condition for less than $900K now.
     
  11. ttn27

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    So true. Mileage has become much less relevant now. Unlikely to find a no storied car for less than a million now.
     
  12. texasmr2

    texasmr2 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes sir I agree that the mileage is becoming a non-issue, in my opinion of course, simply because even the higher mileage cars are still very low mileage cars in reality. F40 owners (most Fcar owners ;)) are known to keep meticulous service records which is crucial. I build a file for every car I have owned since '85, even though they were not Ferrari's, but said records always helped during negotiations.

    Totally off topic but I must say that I am truly happy that I still know a F40 owner in the Houston area when I need a "FIX".
     
  13. DFexotic

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  14. ttn27

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    The painted F40 emblem on the spoiler just does not look right.
     
  15. DFexotic

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    yeah it looks really awkward on the car
     
  16. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    i recall the bottom was in 2004-2005 for the F40? i do believe also the market has change. possibly due to new demographics purchasing powers, internet spin, high end flippers like in the late 80's. we do know how that story ended right? There certainly is a trend that somewhat mirror the socal real estate frenzy back in the mid 2000's. People rushing to buy before they get priced out? On a rare car like the 288gto makes sense but they did produce quite a few F40s by comparisons by halo car standards.

    The aircooled 911 rocketship increase in value has been extraordinary given the number of cars that are out there. along with the weak dollar im wondering how much the 50th anniversary extra media and print coverage had to with this? 912s, 2.7’s and 964s were unloved and sat on the bottom forever. Then this sudden wake up call is somewhat perplexing for these once overlooked cars.
     
  17. ttn27

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  18. Arjun

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    Hard to say if the recent demand for '80s Ferrari supercars and Porsches is another bubble or a function of Generation X-ers beginning to hit peak earning power and starting to buy the cars of their childhood dreams. We saw something similar happen with baby boomers and muscle cars, and it's hard not to see the similarities with the recent run in prices in F40s, Countach-es, and 964/993 Porsches. Any way, it's just a theory I have - I don't have any hard data to back it up.

    As for the bottom of the F40 market being in 2004-5, it may well have been but there were people on this forum listing F40s for $390K and no finding no buyers for months in 2009-10.
     
  19. joe sackey

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    That was actually in the mid-to-late 90s. In 1997 I purchased a nice low-mileage example for just over $250k.
     
  20. kverges

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    I get approached by bottom feeders all the time, the latest ploy being comparison with Euro cars. One thing I think you may have to accept with a euro car is new fuel bladders with some regularity unless you can have ethanol-resistant bladders made. And I think there is significant risk in buying a euro car, with language barrier and a trustworthy inspection and then shipping and registration in the US (but not Cali).

    Most of these folks don't want an F40. They want a bargain.
     
  21. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    i paid 425k for my 3200 mile car in 09
     
  22. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    That's an old one!
     
  23. Arjun

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    Proves my point.

    You sir, hit the jackpot (I think Keith may also be in a similar boat as you). That car is now probably worth 2.5 - 3 times what you paid for it.
     
  24. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    and if it went right back to 425K i wldnt shed a tear...owning it has been a religious experience
     
  25. Gmaccormack

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    Will the us f40 fuel cell fit in row cars?
     

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