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F430 Clutch %

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  1. Asthenis

    Asthenis Karting

    Jan 20, 2023
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    Hello There!

    I am about to pull the trigger on a 2006 F430 with 19k miles on it, but the remaining Clutch is 52% (48% used)...

    is this OK for a normal use or can become quickly an issue ?
    how many years - credit would I get if I don't take it every weekends on the Track ? :D

    thanks !
     
  2. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    That sounds about right .. you probably have another 10 15 k left as long as you don't reverse it alot or get stuck in stop and go traffic freq

    Actually track time probably wears the clutch less than stop and go ..


    Most the wear happens at initial bite

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  3. Asthenis

    Asthenis Karting

    Jan 20, 2023
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    I see thanks a lot !
    also going Neutral at stop in City might help instead of staying in 1st gear ?
     
  4. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

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    I don't believe based on how the system works ..unless you creep

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  5. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    It all depends on how you drive. You can burn a clutch out in a matter of minutes. Or that clutch could last you another 5 years. Stay away from underground parking lots. Stay away from cruising in downtown heavy stop and go traffic. Pay very close attention to the full engagement point and carry your speed appropriately for the conditions to minimize clutch slippage. But sure your PIS is set correctly ( no more then 1800 rpm before full engagement). Avoid steep slow hills where the clutch won't fully engauge (constant slip) minimize reversing time. Just a few thoughts..
     
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  6. jedijingle

    jedijingle Rookie

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    On hills in traffic, let the cars in front of you pull up and make a large gap, Then get the car going and come to a full stop and let them gap again otherwise the creep in traffic with really wear it down quickly. Not a bad Idea to have the PIS adjusted by a shop.
    Cheers
     
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  7. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Why ?
     
  8. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    Depending on where you are parked..that car will just continually slip the clutch on the way up the ramps simply because the vehicle speed will not be fast enough to allow full engagement of the clutch. A customer if mine toasted his brand new clutch after getting stuck in an under ground after a baseball game. Expensive lesson.
     
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  9. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Oh, damned. we long for a six-speed gearbox and a working hand brake. Even then, the smell of clutch will permeate the parking garage
     
  10. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    True..but when you are in a line up of cars you just can't stop and let the car cool. With a manual car you can use your foot and "feel" to modulate the clutch..even lugg the engine a little bit in order to minimize clutch wear and heat. The F1 gearbox and software will not allow for that. The clutch will slip until certain rpm and vehical speeds are reached and on a hill or slope..that very rarely happens below 40 mph.
     
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  11. 3POINT8

    3POINT8 F1 Rookie
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    Just don't use reverse. I could smell the clutch burning each time I went in reverse in my F430
     
  12. SCantera

    SCantera F1 Veteran
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    I have had quite a few F1 transmissions over the years. Including the antiquated 2005 Maserati QP Duoselect.

    The key to longevity is understanding how to minimize slipping the clutch. I have done well with my 18k mile 575 SuperAmerica. Still has 79% remaining.

    I am a bit worried about my QP. Recently my girl moved it out of the house garage down the driveway. When I came up from my car garage I initially could not figure out what the smell was. Then I realized she had smoked the clutch. I am not optimistic about the reading when I take it in for service.

    In traffic let the car in front pull away far enough to allow enough throttle for full engagement of the clutch and quickly shift into neutral to disengage and coast up behind the car in front. Creeping forward to maintain the gap isn’t good for the clutch.
     
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  13. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    So ramps on above ground lots don't hurt the clutch?
     
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  14. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    A ramp is a ramp...I suppose I should have mentioned those as well.. also..an F430 is not a good choice to climb Mt everest.
     
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  15. radlu

    radlu Formula Junior

    Jun 6, 2005
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    How do you know the clutch wear numbers are good?
     
  16. AEHaas

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    I think a lot of wear is when slowing, downshifting. Brakes are from slowing, not your clutch/engine.

    Ali
     

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