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  1. RichardCH

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    So for any of you who doubt my substance, seriousness & sensibility (Rob L, this is meant for you), I have just bought a second Ferrari F430 Sports Exhaust 70003290 from Ferrari chat member Continental Autosports (circa $3,600), let's see if the difference from 70003425 is only the chrome tips !
     
  2. ttforcefed

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    where is the initial debate?
     
  3. RichardCH

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    well Rob scrubbed my comments on vivid last friday
     
  4. ttforcefed

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    lol my post just got deleted because i asked how the sport sounds with capristo hiflow cats and capristo headers - guess that wasnt e relevant enough question? wtf.
     
  5. RichardCH

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    #5 RichardCH, Oct 14, 2019
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    just wait for it all to disappear guys.... its should be renamed SnapchatF430, not that I have only been around for 15 years since I bought my Stradale, guess I am still too much of an opinioned newbie, board sponsors seem to rule, but they shouldn't, or we will all be somewhere else on a new forum
     
  6. ttforcefed

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    have you ever heard a sport with capristo headers and cap hiflow cats?
     
  7. ttforcefed

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    #7 ttforcefed, Oct 14, 2019
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    and btw i re-watched the 430 skit when clarkson did the review on top gear...made me want to go drive my 430!
     
  8. RichardCH

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    #8 RichardCH, Oct 14, 2019
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    If you look at Rob's Linkedin profile, he seems to be far more interested in $$$, than cars, Rob which cars do you personally own and drive regularly? https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-lay/
     
  9. rob lay

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    WTF!?! Why being such an ass to me? Vivid did reach out to me a couple days ago and I said go through the normal mod channels just like everyone else (reporting posts). If anything was done it wasn't me, mods determined it against our rules and weighing it against your past history. For whatever reason you had similar attacks on Fabspeed last year. Who cares if most companies have policy of only posting MSRP and you have to contact them offline for the actual discount pricing? Their company policy has nothing to do with FerrariChat and especially me! I haven't touched any of your posts, but did just report this thread for personally trolling me. I really don't know you much better than thousands of other old active users, you aren't that important that I'm personally following you around causing you problems.
     
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  10. RichardCH

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    Rob, there is a difference between the right to free speech / openly criticize and trolling, it is well documented that Fabspeed have a history of misleading clients, selling poorly designed products (but hopefully are improving) and that Vivid aren't angels either, if vendors dominate the Ferrari owners / board members suffer, a balance needs to me found, just because a vendor creates a commercial thread, it should not be, that they then totally own all the conversation.
     
  11. rob lay

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    mods will take a look considering your past and present behavior, I just know personally attacking me is misguided.
     
  12. RichardCH

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    I am not attacking you, that's silly language, I guess you set policy for Ferrari chat though and hold a financial interest ?
     
  13. rob lay

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    FerrariChat has been a business for 20 years, I had 100% interest until 3 years ago and now 25%. I believe in free market systems and that FerrariChat has operated most successfully as a business. Just look what happened to Club Scuderia forums run as a committee non-profit or even Telaio. Yes I benefit financially from FerrariChat and I want the business to be healthy, but that ultimately is bottom line of happy active users. As evidenced this year, I put users first and have kicked out paying sponsors when I didn't think it was best for the community. I have no reason to believe that for Fabspeed or Vivid, users are welcome to provide feedback against those sponsors. We draw the line when it becomes trolling or user really has other interests in mind.
     
  14. RichardCH

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    Good to hear, I have no other interests beyond that as a wild enthusiast, I consume a lot of products and I want the best products and service & when I don't receive that, the right to voice it
     
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    You're attacking the wrong person. Rob stays out of the day-day moderation decisions. Yes, he sets the policy, such as "no trolling", "no flaming", and "no stalking" but he doesn't decide what those actually are, the moderators do. The moderators moderate based on what we would like to see as users and in reference to our own judgement regarding what seems to be fair. Rob has actually been very hands off regarding that and has frequently chosen to lose sponsors or advertisers if that's the outcome in backing up moderator decisions.

    You chose to criticize a seller for posting MSRP prices, which he states he is required to do by his reseller's agreement and when advised of that, you continued on his case rather than letting it go. This is a community, made up of users, subscribers, and sponsors; each segment deserves a say but also freedom from unwarranted harrassment. No one segment trumps the other segment. Sometimes that means separating topics into separate threads. In this case one thread is "I have exhausts to sell" and another is "I wish Vivid would post actual selling prices not MSRP even if his agreement says otherwise".

    You may have perfectly legitimate complaints about Vivid Racing and Fabspeed, but you also have a poor sense of where to post your complaints and, as with your charges against Rob and possibly Vivid, sometimes you're just wrong and don't know when to move on. No one's censoring you in general, but the TOS specifies that we can move or delete posts or threads that are in the wrong place or inappropriate in context. You're having your say in this thread, aren't you? You can continue to do so if you keep it here and not convey it all over the board in some misguided vendetta.
     
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  16. RichardCH

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    The whole inflated MRSP thing is silly as our Ferrari owners, can get a massively better deal as we all know, its just a case how you negotiate, its misleading them & that is what is truly NOT COOL about it, be transparent with your best price for everyone, its easy, otherwise its like saying I will scam some people because I know I can ....
     
  17. VividRacing

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    I do not scam anyone, and I do not charge anyone MSRP. As I've stated previously on several occasions, the MSRP (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price) is set by Kline.

    My posts all clearly state, "Offers to include discounts, package deals, and free shipping. I've listed the full Kline catalog below along with MSRP pricing. To discuss the exclusive Ferrarichat member offers, please contact me directly via PM, email, or phone. As always, we have our best price guarantee and will match or beat any competitor quote!"

    I've never overcharged a single member of Ferrarichat. You're making assumptions and unsubstantiated claims.

    What you're also failing to realize is your erroneous posts are negatively affecting the relationship that we have with Kline. As someone who claims to hold Kline in high regard, I fail to see how you justify trying to harm the business relationship they share with one of their largest distributors.

    -James
     
  18. RichardCH

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    #18 RichardCH, Oct 16, 2019
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    Sure but you don't transparently offer them your best price either, to everyone, its frankly wrong, transparency is key in business, so why don't you change your policy and make Ferrarichat members happy and start by listing on your Kline thread what your absolute best prices are ? You might even sell more of them as a consequence.
     
  19. VividRacing

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    This industry functions on MAP. Minimum advertised price. We are required to post a specific price publicly while working magic behind the scenes. This isn’t a ploy or a scam. I’m always transparent with all of my clients. This is something you would know if you were my client. We don’t control the industry. But I do control how I function within it. If you’ve had bad experiences elsewhere and want to vent on those, I certainly understand. You’ve never done business with us, and you’ve developed your opinion on us based on experiences had elsewhere. You like Kline. We like Kline. Your fight isn’t with us. Stop making assumptions. We’re the good guy.

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