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F430 Subwoofer Upgrade Suggestion wanted

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  1. velvetropeparty

    velvetropeparty Karting

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    I am an automotive electronics guy, but not in speakers and amps. I do bluetooth, ipod, laser jammer, backup cameras, etc etc for high end cars (cartronics.com). I usually leave the speakers and amps to the other guys. However, I want to do my own upgrade....

    That being said, I am doing a Pioneer Avic-N5 to replace the junk Becker unit. I am also installing the iPod, XM and backup camera that we make into the car.

    I have the factory Sub enclosure between the seats and would like a suggestion of replacement parts to install (including an amp) in the factory enclosure to give me more volume and cleaner base in the car (07 spider).

    I know the usual dribble about the exhaust being the best sound, AND I AGREE COMPLETELY. However, after a while the girls get a little bored with that. SO please save the exhaust vs stereo comments and give me some good suggestions please.
     
  2. Ingpr

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    Best move you can do! Ferrari OEM system is a crap!
    I strongly recommend to you the new JVC KD-AVX77 wich is DVD, CD, bluethooth, everything. For speakers I used the Polk component speakes MM6501, they are sick man. For the amp use a JL 4 channels and for the sub Sony XS-LB10S for the back seat
    I really put a lot of pressure to those speakers and they sound just fantastic!!
    BestBuy did the installation.

    Good luck!
     
  3. velvetropeparty

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    I have already invested in the head unit, so that is set.

    I want to clarify that you used the stock cabinet and speaker locations? I want to really use the stock SUB cabinet that came with the car, just replace the drivers with something better.
     
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  4. m.roberts

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  5. velvetropeparty

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    I use the behind the seat area a lot for storage of hats, jackets, even my camera or laptop. I drive this car a lot (20k miles already). I was trying to NOT add anything behind the seats. I am not looking for the absolute best sound, but a little more volume and a better bass. The stock system cracks up on the bass rather quickly. I have not tested yet to find out if it the amp or the drivers (or both)
     
  6. forgeahead

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    Laser jammer? What's up with that? I got a supposed jammer/detector from Rocky Mountain Radar detectors. It doesn't work worth a crap. Are there better radar/laser jammers available?
     
  7. velvetropeparty

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    No offense, but you should do some internet research for stuff before buying. Rocky Mountain Radar has a LOOOONG standing reputation for years of fleecing people out of money.
    REAL Laser Jammers work well. Since we are in the speed, comfort, performance business - we constantly test against real police speed guns. The current winner for the past year or so has been the LPP laser jammer (parking sensor as well) See our site at Cartronics.com

    We also have forward looking infra red FLIR camera (night vision)
     
  8. m.roberts

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    Rocky Mountain is CR*P! I have never seen a good review of them, and frankly from the ones I have seen in person, you can tell they are poor quality.

    Go with the LPP!
     
  9. velvetropeparty

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    #9 velvetropeparty, Jan 13, 2010
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    Thanks for the backup on that! Ok, no thread hijacking. Back to my subwoofer question. STILL looking for a recommendation on a adequate replacement for the stock drivers, and using the stock 'between the seats' cabinet. Nothing else behind the seats (or at least both seats). I use that area a LOT for personal item storage.
    Maybe a bazooka bass tube behind one seat at most.

    One last thought on Rocky Mountain Radar. I was SHOCKED (and I mean mouth open, could not believe what I was seeing) that RMR actually had the balls to show up at this years CES show and have a booth. It was UNBELIEVABLE! This is a show for retailers to meet suppliers. I guess they are looking for victims that are not knowledgeable at all. STILL pushing the "passive" radar jamming.. ........whatever!
     
  10. FLU

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    #10 FLU, Jan 13, 2010
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    for the stock sub location, u'll find that the top sub is the only active one and the bottom one is passive and only reacts as a air weight to tune the top sub/factory enclosure. I replaced the top sub with one from Hertz audio and gave it a little more power from an aftermarket amp. In a spyder though with your top down, a lot of your volume will escape and you won't notice as much the increase in SPL. What you will notice though is that the sub will be much more punchy and accurate in bass frequency to a certain extent. It's still going to be a small sized sub, so deep rolling notes cannot be replicated as well, though it will try. If you do add a bazooka, i believe that most of them are ported enclosures and so this will make up the difference in those rolling notes.
     
  11. velvetropeparty

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    FINALLY a real suggestion... ok so an Audison/Hertz sub? I was thinking about a Bazooka Tube for a little more low end punch (what is even possible off that little sub driver anyhow?)
    I was also thinking about putting TWO drivers in the stock enclosure as "rear" speakers and a Tube.

    Your comments are welcome!
     
  12. velvetropeparty

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    Do you happen to know which Hertz driver you used?
     
  13. forgeahead

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    No offens taken. I got it on the rec of somebody. lesson leasned.
     
  14. FLU

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    sorry, I do not remember exactly which driver i used due to having done this early 2007. also the Hertz brand has so many different options available its insane. I remember calling them and asking for their advice as to which driver to install in this type of enclosure. If you power a hertz 5.25 just right, I find that they make for amazing mid range bass drivers. Their sub driver's even though small, all have a special dual surround design to give accentuation to the mid to slightly lower freq's.

    If you go with 2 drivers in the factory enclosure, you might have to create an inner air tight wall inside the box to separate the air the drivers are going to use. In most cases if you don't, you probably won't notice any issues until you crank it up and certain music/freq's sent through them can cause the speakers to distort reacting to each other - due to not having enough/too much "pressured air" within the box.

    Gluck with whichever route u go! I'm almost positive it will be better then stock haha!
     
  15. carguy1164

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    #15 carguy1164, Jan 13, 2010
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    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1071788&stc=1&d=1263442145

    I faced the same issue with a customers factory sub box. Initially I tried to install 2 JL 6" subs but the enclosure just didnt have sufficient space. Ended up building and entire fiberglass box that houses a JL 8w3 which fires down into the floor. Installed Hertz Milli's components in the doors and it is all pushed by a JL HD 600x4.Dont know if this helps, but maybe give you an idea
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  16. FLU

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    #16 FLU, Jan 13, 2010
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    [/QUOTE]Installed Hertz Milli's components in the doors and it is all pushed by a JL HD 600x4.Dont know if this helps, but maybe give you an idea[/QUOTE]

    ooo nice, the Milli's alone in the doors have respectable bass response i bet!!
     
  17. AJTozzi

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    Please, please do me a favor. Your in Atlanta I see. Where do you plan on getting the gear installed? PLEASE do not do anything without consulting Jeff Smith at Sound Sensations. He is simply THE BEST. He just got voted the Top Installer in the country

    http://www.me-mag.com/CurrentIssueList.aspx

    Good luck!
     
  18. velvetropeparty

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    #18 velvetropeparty, Jan 14, 2010
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    I am an installation shop... we just don't bother with audio gear. So will be doing my own installation.
    CARguy, I sent you a PM...don't know if you want it broadcast....let me know and I will.
     
  19. SfefVan

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    When I searched more info about the product Laser Pro Park (Laser Protector Pro) you're selling on your website Cartronics.com, I found out that this company in Uk has stopped his activity and went into serious troubles with UK government (scamming clients, illegal business operation etc...). Better be aware of this...
    Find out more here :
    http://www.laserjammertests.com/laserpropark.htm
    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=948214
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137664995
     
  20. velvetropeparty

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    #20 velvetropeparty, Jan 14, 2010
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    That is not true... A thread started by a competitor actually. The Jammer manufacturing business is very juvenile and cut throat. I talk to the boys at LPP at least once a week. No business problems at all. They have been trying for over a year to get those posts down.

    You know the deal, don't believe everything you read online. ANYONE can make a post.
    As a matter of fact, in fairness to them, we should take down these two posts so as not to propagate an old false story
     
  21. SfefVan

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    Thanks for the info. I found out now a lot of positive info about LPP even here in Europe. Started getting very interested in this solution (especially with the latest flash version) and I'm looking how to get one and integrate it in my F430. But I'll have to add some other stuff like the Valentine One because the LPP seems to be a permanent jammer and cops aren't stupid. I will have to shut it off before they start getting to know I'm using a jammer...That's why a second unit is needed to warn me of the presence of a laser (and fixed radars too of course.) Any advice would be very welcome.

    Sorry for the confusion. In fact, we should leave these posts as it because at least, it leave a trace and would avoid other people getting confused.
     
  22. velvetropeparty

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    The LPP has an always on or default is 8 seconds then it resets. Eight seconds is more than enough time to slow down and give the police the 'satisfaction' of getting a lock.
    If a V1 goes off (or any laser detector only), it is too late already. The V1 is GREAT for Radar. Laser detection only serves no purpose. A laser is 'targeted' at the specific vehicle. It takes them less than 1 second to get a lock (without a jammer).
     
  23. SSR

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    I will never install a sound system in a F car.
     
  24. velvetropeparty

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    Thank you for sharing
     
  25. Ingpr

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    #25 Ingpr, Jan 15, 2010
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    In my first message I recommend you the Sony XS-LB10S for a subwoofer. Here is a picture of one the members here who fit one on his 360 spider.

    When I bought my Modena the previous owner fit a six inches subwoofer under the dash. It sound good and sharp but not enough for me ;-).

    If you don’t want a big bass and just want a solid bass from the speakers you should get a Focal set of component speakers.
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