F430 vs GT2 -- in the real world.....and the winner is?

Is the GT2 stock or does it have mods?

 

He said "well sorted", so I can only assume it is modded...if only lightly. I can see from the pic it is wearing some Pirelli Corsa street slicks...what tires is the 430 on, and were the runs from a stop or a roll?

 

well sorted and modded are not one in the same. a modded gt-2 would make well over 500 hp and would be explosive in the roll on runs if in the correct rpm range. if not, it would seem a possibility that the 430 would match its' pace...for a while. again, a modded gt2 is very, very fast.

in addition to my ferraris, i also have an andial prepped efi 930 turbo that makes approx 500hp (according to andial and previous dyno experience) and is significantly quicker tha the 360 cs and i think will at least match the pace of a gt2 if not be a bit quicker on top. a modded gt2 would be faster than my 930, so im not sure the roll on tests were a fair comparison of outright straight line speed?

i am certain that a modded gt2 would have laid waste to the 430 if run "in the boost".

 

thats friggin awesome for the ferrari

 

richard i think they were rolling from 70 onwards . don't think the tyres had a part as the test sounded like straight line. jack interesting reading on your thoughts about the GT2 pulling away as that is what i had thought as well until i did a little comparision myself with a mate , 2nd gear rolling without any throttle then we nailed it . interesting part was the GT2 was just in front then when i changed to 3rd , the 430 nudged ahead as it had another 2000 rpm to go . it was a see-saw battle all the way up to about 170 kmh . your point on the GT2 feeling faster is a good one . the GT2 holds you back then spits you forward in a great rate of knots where as the 430 is more progressive in it's delivery of power and seems slower but it's not. once we did the side by side test , i was even more amazed at the 430 capabilities

http://media.putfile.com/F430-GT2

jack thanks for the kind words on my new purchase . i love the colour of your 430 but like mine just a little better

giddy up

 

Thanks for this real world test. This is a very good result for the F430...I can't wait for mine.

 

what are the ring times ?

 

So, what did the GT2 have done to it??

 

Jack, I would have bet against the 430. Thanks for the test and post.

 

So does that means the 997 version of the TT will be faster than a 430 ?

 

Jack, awesome results. Seems like your 430 is faster than C&D tested it (unless the GT2 driver was a slow shifter and didn't take it to redline). As a double-check, did you have a change to compare the 430 and GT2 against the CS?

 

No, the 996TT and GT2 are no the same car. The 997TT maybe faster but at this point it's all speculation, I'd be suprised that's for sure.

 

the 430 and the GT2 are in a world of their own . the CS would be left behind. i drove a friends gallardo and he drove my 430 side by side and he pulled away in the 430 . he was very impressed and suprised that the 430 was that quick after driving my CS and coming away disappointed

giddy up

 

sure he didn't drive it like his own.

 

how do you all think the 430 will lend itself to a racing platform?

do you think it will out gun the 997 gt3 in alms racing? i have my thoughts but am just curious of the ideas of others.

pcb

 

It sounds like the problem with Ferrari performance numbers is not so much oversestimation, but simply unreliability/too wide margin of performance for one model.

I mean, one day you hear it is barely quicker on the roll than a CS(obviously a rare occurrence) and the next two separate accounts of an F430 sticking with a GT2 from both a rolling and standing start.

 

Jack, this is great stuff, keep it coming! It's remarkable how much stronger my car feels now with 1000 mi on it vs 500 mi. Bigger difference than in any car I've owned before. And more to come, I'm sure...

Gary

 

NEAT!

 

Omg what a great thread! Keep the comparisons coming oh and with vids hehe !

 

So, i think what you meant to say is that in the real world, a stock F430 would smack around a stock GT2..

the F430 must be VERY FAST to be even with a modded GT2. Wow.

I have my money on the C6 Z vs the GT2 and F430. Any side bets?..

Oh, and please make sure that the drivers in all of these cars know what they are doing..

 

I appreciate there are many rumours...

The ones I've heard are that the "stock" 997 TT will out perform a "stock F430", at least in its most aggressive factory configuation--which will include a new clutchless gear box similar to what Audi uses. Porsche prides itself on being ahead of the Ferrari performance curve and the extra 18 months or so between the 430 release and TT/GT3 release has given Wassach time to sort them completely.

Also, two recent articles suggest the value of the 997 platform versus the 996. One is an article on the new Ruf RT 12. Granted its an Alois special at 650 hp--but word is that it has more ability than the Carrera GT in terms of BOTH power AND handling performance. So you can assume that Porsche will incorporate some of Rufs little tricks on its 997 TT/GT3.

Also, the new Carrera Cup cars (GT3 versions) that are based on the 997 platform and push the same 400 hp as the 996 GT3 Cup cars are knocking down significantly better lap times. Again, its suspension geometry and handling fixes in the 997 platform that gets the credit along with their newly developed sequential racing gearbox.

But, whether the 997 TT/GT3 or 430 comes out on absolute top in straight line or track performance isn't all that makes it best. And since I love both marques, I know that each has a value that is distinct to the other...and both are very special.