F430 Workshop Mods......

hmm...

no I dont think its low enough! [/sarcasm]

 

Damn that 430 is a sweet car. Good job Scud. Nice plate!

 

Looks much better, how much did you actually lower it?

 

Ride height and rake are critical on 360's and 430's due to the underbody aero.
Going too low might be a backwards step. No doubt Phil will elaborate.

 

One further point. You may need to roll the lip of the front guards at that ride height. You will probably bend/tear the guard with the front wheels turned and the suspension under compression. Ask me how I know this

 

How do you know this?

 

Been there, done that. Bent the guard and cracked the paint on my road 360.

 

Theres a thread on this where I've chipped in. The biggest problem will be clearance on the road, handling can be trimmed with rake adjustments trackside, but the underneath will stay smashed unless you change it!!

Scud knows the risks. Good on him, lets hope he can get to the track without ripping the guts out the car!!

 

phil thanks for the points and for not ripping into me for modifyng a perfectly good car . even when i picked it up from parks i said it was too low but we'll see how it goes tomorrow . plus the CS was just as low

 

she will get the F1 plate next week off of the CS

 

picture no 6 is the skid plates fitted the same as on andrews car . great idea and they look ex factory

 

and NNO is going on the CS?

 

yeah, but the corner frames have no strength, so any crashing onto the road surface will be transmitted into the radiator frames.. and the radiators themselves have puny plastic end caps which break very easily...

If 360 radiators are the same (they might be), then full alloy ones are available and can withstand a bit of bump and grind (and bashing in races).

 

camber 3 neg on the front , 4 neg on the rear

toe 2 to 3 mm in on the rear , 0 to 0.5 mm out on the front i think

 

yes but only for a short time until she is sold

 

Keep a good eye on your inside edge tyre temperatures... for me, that camber is WAYYYYY excessive, but I haven't played 430 racing yet.

My guess is you'll have so so braking due to small contact patch of front tyres, and bad traction... AHG's car had sensible camber, and his rear tyres were toast... the power is huge on 430....

 

Your car and your money Roger, so do whatever you want. I was just giving feedback as a result of my experience. I probably would have tracked it B4 I modded it though. Standard baseline would have been a useful yardstick on the mods.

 

I'm running 4.5 and 4 degrees with very even wear across the tyre. I think with street tyres the extra camber would really help with track tyre life.
EDIT:
Forgot to add, Andrews car killed the outside of his tyres.

 

After his first flying lap into the bumpy braking zone at turn 1 QR... he'll think of this line!!

 

couldn't help myself but i did refrain from doing anything else....ran out of time

 

isn't PI harder than QR for tyres ?

 

I've got his old tyres in the workshop. The outside was hot at PI, but elsewhere they were quite good temps.

With road springs, the increased pitch and body roll will add much more camber on bump travel, so under braking the front may gain 2 deg more neg, and under power the rear may gain the same........