News

F50 for sale scam?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by Carinvest, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Hi guys,

    I was offered an F50 from a 'broker' company I don't know.
    They gave me a copy of the title.
    But when I look up the company I don't find a lot.
    Does by any chance somebody knows the owner, Scott Gray from Phoenix. Owner of an F50.

    The company offering the car is: www.exoticcarbroker.us

    Thanks,
     
  2. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Nobody ? :-(
     
  3. blvckintl

    blvckintl Rookie

    Aug 19, 2018
    2
    Newport Beach, CA
    Full Name:
    Ethan Smith
    Don't know the owner but to say that website looks sketchy is an understatement
     
    Rifledriver likes this.
  4. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Moderator
    Moderator

    Oct 1, 2008
    30,081
    Huntsville, AL., USA
    Full Name:
    Andrew
  5. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Haha idd.
    Im from Europe, so Im not sure how to check if a company is real.
    But the address doesn't seem to give a company when I look it up.

    I will keep looking if I find anything.

    Would be good to know if they are scam, at least we know it here :).

    Thanks
     
  6. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

    Apr 29, 2004
    24,134
    Austin TX
    Full Name:
    Brian Crall
    There are a great many good reasons people go out of their way to deal with known, trusted, reputable people for an important car like that.

    The first and foremost on my mind is why would someone with an F50, a real F50, a good F50 go to an unknown to sell it?


    Did you look to see where Spring Creek NV is?

    Its out in the middle of nowhere SE of Elko. Thats the far side of the moon.
     
    SAFE4NOW and RossoC360 like this.
  7. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
    11,487
    Here is the domain's registration info in case that doesn't match up with anyone you've spoken with: https://wa-com.com/exoticcarbroker.us

    Have you communicated directly with the person it lists there?
     
  8. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Hi guys,

    So here is the conclusion:

    www.exoticcarbroker.us is a scam.

    They offered the F50 (see pictures)
    And show a title on name of Scott Grey.

    Don't know if I should post the title here or not?

    For the rest they gave me a phone number of the owner (Scott Grey), the guy on the phone claims to be the owner, but exept spreaking on the phone, he has nothing to proof it.
    No Id, no recent photos, nothing.
    His phone is: +1 480-341-7258

    I had contact with somebody that calls himself Jeff White.
    +17754190706
    sales@exoticcarbroker.us

    Also had contact with a girl called Daniela Mueller
    danielamueller@exoticcarbroker.us

    They ask a deposit to see the car, first 25k, than 10k

    As I asked for any references, they could nog give me anything.
    Only, that suddely, I receive text messages from 4 UK number, telling me they had bought a car from him.
    Here again, nothing can be checked.

    Ferrari, or any big dealer, broker or collector could say they knew him.

    So guys, be carefull.
     
  9. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    I tried to upload some pictures, but nothing happens when I click on the button.
    Maybe because its on my phone.

    Vin of the car is: ZFFTG46A6S0103850
     
  10. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
    Honorary

    Mar 2, 2005
    11,128
    103850 was delivered new December 1995 thru Ferrari of Beverly Hills to first owner P.G.
    It is 041/349.
    Production date 20 October 1995.
    Official delivery date 16 November 1995.
    Engine number 41019.
    Gearbox number 148.
    Body number 12.
    U.S. Version.

    Marcel Massini
     
    Carinvest likes this.
  11. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Thanks Marcel,

    Lets hope the owner is known her on the site, so at least he knows his car is used for a scam...
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

    Apr 29, 2004
    24,134
    Austin TX
    Full Name:
    Brian Crall
    They want 25 large before you can even see it? Thats hilarious. Sad part is people do this because every once in a while someone falls for it.

    I tell people every week, the only "Deals" on a Ferrari are when you pay all the money, get the best and deal with reputable parties.

    The rest of the time it turns into a sob story.
     
  13. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
    Honorary

    Mar 2, 2005
    11,128
    No sane person sends 25 Grand or more to just see a car.

    Marcel Massini
     
    350MH83 likes this.
  14. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Indeed. But still. I prefer to warn people for it.
    Its crazy I think. That they give you a number and the person on the phone tells you he is Mr Gray, that he owns the car, even tells a story around it.
    Must say, he was very friendly.
     
    SAFE4NOW likes this.
  15. built2grind

    built2grind Karting

    Oct 16, 2016
    129
    Monterey Peninsula
    Full Name:
    ANDREW
    Walk away...........
     
  16. SAFE4NOW

    SAFE4NOW F1 Rookie
    Sponsor

    Aug 25, 2004
    3,254
    Dallas Texas
    Full Name:
    Steve F
    ... Run Away ...

    LOL

    S
     
  17. SAFE4NOW

    SAFE4NOW F1 Rookie
    Sponsor

    Aug 25, 2004
    3,254
    Dallas Texas
    Full Name:
    Steve F

    Adding Info.. FWIW

    I see that a " B.C. " may be the current owner. ( At least Ferrari thinks so )

    Also, Racing Seats " Large " came with the car.

    S
     
    Carinvest likes this.
  18. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Moderator
    Moderator

    Oct 1, 2008
    30,081
    Huntsville, AL., USA
    Full Name:
    Andrew
  19. fbrs2

    fbrs2 Karting

    Sep 7, 2012
    194
    UK/Cayman
    When I was looking for my F40 one of these loser outfits wanted $75k to reveal the VIN! It would be funny if it wasn't such a pathetic waste of time.
     
    Carinvest likes this.
  20. Carinvest

    Carinvest Rookie

    Jun 11, 2015
    29
    Antwerp
    Full Name:
    Gregory
    Crazy that they even think it will work...
     

Share This Page