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F80 XX - towards 333 SP Fiorano laptime?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by markonex, Oct 21, 2024.

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  1. markonex

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, with the release of the F80 and the public presentation at Imola World Finals, the next big hit, after SF90 M and 296 V6, will be the most interesting non competitive development vehicle of the decade, something which will have performances in between 499 P and Challenge cars, while still resembling a GT car, yes, I'm talking about F80 XX.

    While nobody expects to see an aesthetic masterpiece reaching the gorgeous lust of the FXXK, it is undeniable that thus model will be most interesting launch from technical perspective in the next decade, together with SP4 and SP5 icona from style point of view, representing the real future trends for Prancing Horse sports cars, aside from prototypes and Modificata version which will arrive for 296 at some point.

    Having said that, apart from the aero developments and the removal of homologation constraints, with pedestrian safety, body limit regulations and GPF exhaust filtering, knowing that the sound will never match the predecessor, what can we expect by F80 XX?

    Will the V6 be pushed close to its maximum theoretical threshold of 1030 PS? Shall we expect a longitudinal fin like in FXXK EVO? How much additional DF will Ferrari be willing to achieve? If there's a road derived car that is worth lapping on the Nordschleife so many years after 599XX, this will be the one.
     
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  2. willcrook

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    it'll be interesting to see where it fits in, the FXX-K was a $1.3m? premium over the La Ferrari, presumably this will be slightly more due to inflation etc

    with the F80 being $4m then presumably you're looking at $5.5m+ for the F80XX which is quite close to the 499 modificata which is also a track only car - Ferrari haven't released the Fiorano time for this though
     
  3. PaulK

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    I'm really wondering if they'll make a street legal F80XX. They did that for the SF90 so they took that genie out of the bottle already.
    Odds are they won't do it to the people that are paying this much $$$ but... It's possible where it used to not be.
     
  4. Chicko

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    I think they will, they seem to have left a lot on the the table with the F80, and they also have the 499p modificata covering the high performance track car.
     
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  5. markonex

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    Making a street legal F80 XX does not make so much sense imho, F80 is already basically quite comparable to a XX stradale, double the downfoce of SF90 XX, engine very close to the limit for road regulations.

    Plus, the halo car has already confirmed to receive 30 XX versions, while for XX stradale they would surely produce more than that, and no Halo car can be sold if customer know that a mild improvement will be released shortly later.

    Imgo, race catalyst, no silencer, race exhaust are needed for the proper track only XX, approaching 950 PS from the V6 alone plus some more powerful battery and evolved electric motor, reaching total combined power of 1300 PS. Removing unnecessary devices necessary for road cars, cutting weight of 50-100 kg.
    Maybe even removing lateral seat and make it with central single seater (doubt this, but woudl be cool and save more weight and optimize more the car body aero).
    Add large Fin like FXXK-EVO, trasnfom the active wing to make it more GTE stile and use swan-neck attachment points. add front flicks, louvers, and extend splitter and diffuser overcoming road legal limits-- reach 1200 kg downforce @250 kmh - 1300 kg with EVO package.
     
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  6. maha

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    the production numbers 30 seems moderately low......
     
  7. willcrook

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    from this perspective it'd make a lot of sense with the close price point to 499p in theory
     
  8. markonex

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    It is the usual production number for track only XX, taking into account they cannot put 150 cars on a track during XX event and corse clienti.
    At finali Mondiali participation is usually quite high.

    They could decide to increase the number slightly since they increased the base model numbers too, maybe reaching 50 models...
     
  9. markonex

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    I don't think they left much on the table on F80, this is the car where Ferrari left less on the table, compared to LaF which was lacking downforce, for example.
    1050 kg @ 250 kph is a lot for a road car with road tires, the dynamic controls, brakes, chassis are all best in class, the only point they could improve is electric power, so not much sense on a road car with already plenty of power, and weight reduction, not so easy with AWD and mandatory road safety devices.

    The XX is planned to be track only, so they can remove weight by reducing unnecessary devices mandatory for passenger cars, set in lighter racing exhaust gaining more PS, full race suspensions, gearbox, transmission, less comfort, lighter.
    Without emission and dB limits, they can push more the ICE, and with less reliability concerns, after 2 years, they coudl optimize more the batteries and EM.

    Plus, with no road homologation and pedestrian/general safety rules to comply with, front splitter, diffuser, S-Duct, rear wing, sides, can be shifted to more extreme downforce generation. The car will be faster than FXXK-EVO, they will work hard on it. De Simone is ready to focus on it.
     
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