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Factory 360 N-GT engine mapping forensically analyzed!

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars' started by 360trev, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
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    Well guys,

    I've finally managed to invest the time to forensically analyze the differences in mapping made to the 360 N-GTs over the base 360 Challenge race cars. If people are interested in discussing this let me know.

    I've just written the software called Swiss Army Knife which allows you to do all kinds of things such as disabling the immobilizer boxes entirely so they can be removed to save some weight and make it more reliable. They where always pointless on the 36 challenge cars... Anyway if there is enough interest I can discuss more about it...

    I'm also currently doing a super advanced telemetry logger for 360 challenge, since I'm adding it directly into ECU firmware I can access everything, over 6,000 variables are loggable!!
     
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  2. MikyFerrari

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    Would love to understand more about the 6000 variables, the immobilizer and the N-GT difference vs Challenge

    Miky
     
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  3. 02360spider

    02360spider Formula Junior

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    Does the N-gt have higher hp? I know the qirbox is very different

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  4. robin348C

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    Always interesting stuff Trev. Would love to read more about it.
     
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  5. MCASEY

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    This is a great idea, any chance to add the suspension data from the CAN line??? There should be speed of damper movement and with a Gyro or accelerometer data we can get the damper position. Maybe even a iPhone Gyro app could be used????. Worst case add a couple of pots. I don't have any software skills, but Hardware I can manage. Great job, love your attitude.
     
  6. galt

    galt Formula 3
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    Wow...the amount of expertise in the 360/430 platform you have amassed is phenomenal. Thanks for being so generous with the information and the details on your car.
     
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  7. 360trev

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    Sorry its taken a while to get back to this, a lot going on here.

    I've just successfully tested integration of Launch Control. LC was never available on the regular 360's but I've worked out how to integrate the feature directly into Ignition ECU's themselves. This is different to how its done on the Challenge Stradale with the LC being done inside the TCU.

    Anyway, I will come back very shortly and begin the dissection. Its going to take a while to go through all the changes as they are a lot of them. What's surprised me was the disabling entirely of any monitoring wrt detonation. Its all disabled... Anyway more coming soon.
     
  8. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
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    I've now fully reverse engineered the entire firmware. Its taken many months of effort to do and I had to develop some custom tools including my own customized disassembler to accomplish it properly but its starting to bear a lot of fruit now. I can literally add new features and I can also communicate over can bus too.
     
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  9. 02360spider

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  10. SoCal1

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    6000 variables is just too much for my old brain lol
    Very cool stuff something that's most effective on tdays cars


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