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Fair price on a 95 355 GTB

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  1. Dave rocks

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    I agree. I can't speak for Ferrari but I know GM valves are (or were) induction hardened and ground. Did the bike mechanic heat treat them in his home oven? Probably did not grind them...
     
  2. Nikki Sixx

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    The point is, that a rebuilt motor is not a value add proposition. And the car which is the subject of this thread is, IMO with the information provided and as an educated 355 owner, enthusiast and DIY mechanic with lots of hard learned experience a 35k - 40k car.

    I do most of my own work on my cars. The tuning, machine work and certain other interior type work, I bring to professional people in the respective discipline who are absolute crafts people. The heads of a 355 are very similar to the heads of cafe race bikes. Infact, I believe Yamaha has been using the 5 valve set up more many many years. I know there are others.

    When my genuine ferrari part... I.e. THE HEADS... Failed, the resulting damage required the machining of the heads, seats, etc... I actually ordered ferrari valves, and my bike mechanic, who happens to have been on factory engine building race teams, measured and weighed them. Each were out in both weight and seat angle. He decided to make new ones. Since he rebuilt the heads, the compression ratio increased beyond stock specs, the engine is smooth, reliable . If you came to this guys shop to ask to get work done, he would tell you to go f&@k your sister ( he's a bit cranky). And if you are one of the privileged few regular joes who could get him to do work for you, don't bug him about the time it takes or he will throw you out of his shop. He would shoot someone like Dave Rocks on site.

    Eric, I will forgive your ignorance however, and I hope you are sitting for this but, ..... Shhh, I'll whisper,... ferrari doesn't build with the best parts all the time and they make comprises in places because they are in business and sorta mass produce their product...... Even if if is art to begin with.

    To say that not using genuine ferrari parts is to say that all of the up market sellers products such as tubi, gruppe m, speed line, skunk works, capristo, etc, etc, etc, are inferior. Put a few more miles on and learn.
     
  3. Mik3ymomo

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    Valves are such a specialty item with everything from sodium filled, coatings to lightened hollowed parts to any number of treatments. The absolute last thing I would want would be someone making a homemade part to fit in my valvetrain. Sheesh!
     
  4. Dave rocks

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    Here, watch this video (note, I spend only 10 seconds to look for one)....

    Pretty hard to do in a garage :)

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbKFYzmPDnI]SUPAR ENGINE VALVES - YouTube[/ame]
     
  5. Nikki Sixx

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    Do any of you know that many of the valve guides are made by people who make them themselves? WTFAY?
     
  6. Dave rocks

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    Even though I have a shot and probably could it does not mean I would :)

    And, when you said "Bike Mechanic" I bet many of us thought you meant bicycle :)
     
  7. Nikki Sixx

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    There's a state of the art facility. Seems they have it all down . Look out GM.

    Is this where you use to work?
     
  8. johnk...

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    So, following this and your other post, you bought 2 valves from Ferrari which were out of speck and your mechanic made 2 new ones. What about the other 38 OEM valves?
     
  9. INTMD8

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    One thing's for sure, never a lack of entertainment on this board :)
     
  10. Nikki Sixx

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    Your second statement doesn't surprise me now that I think about it. I'll speak slower next time.
     
  11. Nikki Sixx

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    I didn't replace all of the valves as you elected to do. What's the problem? He reseated all of the existing valves and made 2 new ones, yes from scratch. They were exhaust valves IIRC in the same cylinder. I have approx. 20,000k on the engine since.
     
  12. johnk...

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    It is pretty fun, isn't it.
     
  13. johnk...

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    If you don't see it......
     
  14. Nikki Sixx

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    Ha! That's a goud wan..
     
  15. Nikki Sixx

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    What do you expect with a bunch of kids and a few clowns in the arena, LOL!

    Once in a while a grown up attends to educate and participate..
     
  16. fatbillybob

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    True but how do you find them? Who was it that had their 355 rebuilt on this board 2000 miles ago to the tune of $25,000 and is now posting about blowing oil smoke on start up?
     
  17. Nikki Sixx

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    Exactly. But of course, no one here appears to have a problem with a 30k mile car that required a rebuild either. Even when done by who knows who?

    Jesus, JohnK was driving everyone nuts for the two years when he was looking for his car, whining about the smallest detail, ( on a firano) for god sakes. DR, busted the balls of the dealership who sold him his car and they all of a sudden have no issue with a rebuilt motor on a 30K car?

    These guys should be on a kids show.
     
  18. Asta

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    Nikki, which car? The car I'm posting about? If so, will you please PM me? Thanks!
     
  19. Nikki Sixx

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    Of course the car you are posting about. Sorry, I was busy with the children. Pm sending.
     
  20. Dave rocks

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    Please point me to that thread / post since I bought my car(s) from private sellers so again, you have no clue what you are talking about....

    And, based on your short time here, anonymous profile, knowing all - I suspect you are another user in costume...
     
  21. Nikki Sixx

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    #71 Nikki Sixx, Nov 6, 2014
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    I believe you went back on the seller who sold you your car about some mechanical issues that they paid for.



    No, I am not another user in costume. Just learned enough through the years. This batch of owners seems to need some guidance. We are here to help. You don't need my profile to be filled out to know that I can help you young Jedi.
     
  22. Dave rocks

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    Dude, what are you smoking? I bought both of my cars from private sellers. I bought my 98 close to 2 years ago and not a single person has touched or paid for anything on the car since then except me.

    Get your facts straight or shut up.
     
  23. Nikki Sixx

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    Most all of my facts are straight...DUDE.

    Could of been a car you were looking at or, MAYBE I have you mixed up with some other 4 footer. It was also a year and a bit ago. Regardless, elevate bud, there's no need for insult.
     
  24. Dave rocks

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    You are talking crap and I take offense. Get your facts straight before you run your mouth, you are totally out of line.
     
  25. Nikki Sixx

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    Repeat after me, " pardon me sir but I think you are mistaken". Or maybe " I think you have mistaken me for someone else".

    Wasn't that easy?

    See? Manners, it's all it takes here. Work on it.

    You can do it.


    Ata boy...
     

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