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Fatal Hit-and-run 2001 Ferrari (San Diego)

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  1. Nationaltec

    Nationaltec Karting

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    Just came across this... Not to smart.. Not sure who...


    Hit-and-run victim who died identified
    ENCINITAS – A transient killed in a hit-and-run accident last week has been identified as 54-year-old Patrick Fisher.

    He was hit by a red Ferrari on Oct. 14 about 6:45 p.m. at Santa Fe and Devonshire drives, authorities said.

    The next morning, a man claiming to be the driver went to the Encinitas Sheriff's station with an attorney and told deputies about the accident, Sgt. Randy Webb said.

    The driver, whose name has not been released, was not arrested. The 2001 Ferrari was impounded for investigation.

    When asked why the driver was not arrested, Webb said Tuesday that timing was a factor.

    Once an arrest is made, authorities have 72 hours to get the case to the District Attorney's Office, Webb said.

    "DNA evidence doesn't come back in 72 hours. . . . It's better for the Sheriff's Department to do a thorough investigation before any charges are laid out."

    The investigation is ongoing.

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    Take care guys,
    Patrick
    ( and check the Tech Forum for my post "328GTS Sat for a month, Clutch gone? "" ) Need help... I'm so pissed, first the Chargers loose then this ! ...
     
  2. Ryan in SD

    Ryan in SD Formula Junior

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    He turned himself in what more do you want?
     
  3. 911Fan

    911Fan Formula 3

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    That's pretty lame. As if he didn't know he hit anyone until the next day. More likely he saw the damage and the local news accounts of a Ferrari being involved and knew he'd be found out.

    What's even more lame is that he wasn't arrested for an obvious hit and run. Clearly, he didn't stop and call for an ambulance. Different laws seem to apply if you're affluent and can lawyer up...
     
  4. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    At 6:45PM there's a good chance the guy would have blown over and that's why he took off. He just figured he'd take his chances and wait. Ethically not the right move.
     
  5. AntonyR

    AntonyR F1 Veteran

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    To call an ambulance after he hit the guy..

    did you know the driver?



    Antony
     
  6. Da Hapa

    Da Hapa Formula Junior

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    As is the case with a lot of hit and run incidents... the driver might well have been drinking which obviously impaired his judgement. After sobering up, he probably realized that he needed to do what was right and turned himself in. I'm certainly not making excuses for his/her horrible behaviour but this happens a lot, unfortunately.

    Sad story no matter what.
     
  7. J.P.Sarti

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    Whos to say it was the Ferrari drivers fault, they said transient meaning a bum who was probably high from sniffing paint and walked into the path of the car.
     
  8. JaguarXJ6

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    So, striking someone who's intoxicated or otherwise under the influence of substances and/or a transient makes it less their fault? I'm having trouble seeing that reasoning. Maybe I'm too engrossed in work.

    If everyone got what they deserved, there would be no one left on the planet. :) :)

    If you hit someone, you get them medical attention. In case you haven't heard, running from the scene doesn't exactly imply innocence. The laws don't apply if you can't be identified?

    Whats wrong with people today?

    I hope they recover and that the guy gets the maximum sentence. He did turn himself in, but 8hrs or even 24hrs of time to settle your conscience at the potential cost of someone else's life is a wee bit immoral. I'm no saint but I might be after reading this thread.

    Sunny
     
  9. TopElement

    TopElement Formula 3

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    Yes, in my opinion it could remove fault from the driver. What is one to do if a bum steps out onto the road as you're carefully driving along?
    If a drunk jumps in front of my car, how am I at fault for hitting them? If anything, they hit me.
     
  10. Ryan in SD

    Ryan in SD Formula Junior

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    Imagine how freaked out you would be after hitting someone. Maybe the driver just totally lost mental control and needed time to himself before he could turn himself in.

    Antony, no I dont know the driver.(i dont think)
     
  11. cig1

    cig1 F1 Rookie

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    And when, exactly, would you find out if the person was a transient high from sniffing paint????

    Some people don't get it ... YOU ARE OBLIGATED to stop and render help to ANYONE you hit with your car. What part of that don't you understand?

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  12. J.P.Sarti

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    No need to break out the Phil Collins Another Day in Paradise or Tracy Champman homeless rock cds yet or hold a candlelight vigil for this transient minding his own business hit by the big bad rich Ferrari driver.

    We don't know the whole story, most bums are not nice people and he could have saw the Ferrari coming and wanted to get hit or play chicken with it and he lost, maybe the Ferrari driver had a few beers but was not intoxicated but would still face consequences for driving while drinking, true he should have stopped if it wasn't his fault he would not have had the problems he is going to have now for hit and run which is bad judgement on his part.
     
  13. ryalex

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    So, if a drunk Ferrari driver hits a staggering drunk bum in the middle of the street, who is at fault?
     
  14. markymark360f1

    markymark360f1 Formula 3

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    a ferrari hitting anyone is bad news. Hope the driver made sure he has good insurance. I bet the bum will...
    MM
     
  15. ROGUE GTS

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    If the ferrari driver was over the legal limit he's at fault irregardless of the circumstances. The drunk bum could have done a gainer off the roof of a building onto his hood and it would still be the drivers fault. Ahhh the lovely laws of CA.

    If the driver was not intoxicated then he made a BIG mistake by leaving the scene. He's now given them a nearly unlimited time frame to build a case and press charges.

    Then again morally he made a huge mistake anyway you shake it.
     
  16. markymark360f1

    markymark360f1 Formula 3

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    they had that on CSI once. Except it was an Sclass
     
  17. synchro

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    Eat the rich!
     
  18. elsupremo

    elsupremo Karting

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    Surprise, surprise.

    Someone gives a brief, generalized overview of the accident and everyone thinks they are an expert on the exact events that took place, along with the actions and motivations of the characters involved.

    It might be fun to make assumptions, but until factual documentation straight from the horse's mouth is produced, that's all it is - assumption.
     
  19. JaguarXJ6

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    Fact: A police report was filed at least 8 hours after the pedestrian was KILLED by, self admitted, their car.

    Fact: When a pedistrian is injured, there are law enforcement and emergency personnel on scene to take a report or call the coroner.

    Fact: Regardless of who is at fault, the driver LEFT THE SCENE. Thats a FELONY and might be considered for more serious charges.

    Fact: Expect to get ****ed up the ass by the lawyer of a pedestrian you hit on the road if you flee the scene and a) do not call 911 and/or b) do not call your lawyer after you hang up with 911.

    The only assumption that is being made is that someone should have taken responsibility for their actions. The surprise or lack thereof is they didn't.

    If you wish to debate that, we can start a new thread. Morally there's no question who is to blame.

    Sunny
     
  20. AntonyR

    AntonyR F1 Veteran

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    All I am saying is who cares who was drunk or Fed up, who cares what car he was driving, etc. When you hit someone you call the police to try and save the persons life.


    Antony
     
  21. JaguarXJ6

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    I don't think that anyone dares to disagree with that but after reading some of the reactions in this thread, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few posters or lurkers that did who didn't say it out loud!

    Sunny
     
  22. elsupremo

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    Pardon me, Sunny. I was not aware that you had such thorough experience with hit and run accidents, and knowledge of the thoughts and emotions that could be going through someone's brain seconds after realizing they might have accidentally obliterated someone's life.

    There is no need for a new thread. Rather, there is a need for you to go back and re-read the facts.

    FACT: On Oct. 14, at about 6:45 PM at Santa Fe and Devonshire Drives, a transient identified as 54-year-old Patrick Fisher was hit by a red Ferrari.

    FACT: The next morning, a man claiming to be the driver went to the Encinitas Sheriff's station with an attorney and told deputies about the accident.

    The couple of other facts in the article are merely procedural.

    No where does the article state that the following could not have occurred:
    The driver of the Ferrari was driving at the speed limit, and glanced down as his cell phone rang. At that moment, a man stepped into the street, into the path of the Ferrari. The driver stopped after the impact, saw that the man was dead, called 911 anonymously, and in his emotional panic and confused state, drove home in shock.

    I am not saying this happened, I am just saying this is a possibility. I don't mean to call anybody out or start a conflict - I am simply pointing out that we don't know precisely how this individual handled the situation. If it turns out that the driver is some evil SOB who couldn't have cared less, then so be it. At this point though, we could not make a conclusion either way.

    Keep in mind that the experience of taking someone else's life can be so horrific and destructive as to invoke suicidal tendencies in the perpetrator him or herself.

    One final fact that CAN be inferred is that this was a tragic event for all involved, and nobody involved with this incident will come away unscathed.
     
  23. J.P.Sarti

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    2 things to look at the bright side here first a bum was killed by a Ferrari, at least it wasn't a 73 Ford 150 or a Hyundai, if it was the car drivers fault any family he has will be well compensated.

    A Ferrari was involved in an accident and it didn't explode or burst into flames for a change.
     
  24. Senna1994

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    Man that is cold!
     
  25. cig1

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    You've got to be joking ... right????

    G
     

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