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  1. gcalex

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    #226 gcalex, Dec 30, 2022
    I've long held that one of the main reasons to dyno a carbed car is so that you can tune the carbs "at speed" and under some load. While I do have some (decades ago) experience with the old-school notion of driving at speed; cutting the ignition; coasting to a stop; and reading the plugs, I would never advocate that sort of thing on a public road today. Without resorting to that sort of procedure, I don't know how one jets an engine without a lot of extended trial and error, unless you do the tuning on a dyno... But...

    ...if tuning the carbs is the goal, you'd best have the exhaust on, and the air cleaner(s) in place, or you are not going to be matching real running conditions...

    And yes, I realize that you won't have the right environment temps, or the right "ram air" effects, but the closer you can get to real running conditions the better.

    If one is just looking for "before and after" numbers, however, and you ran the "before" with a bare engine, then yeah, you should run bare for the "after" as well.
     
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    #227 turbo-joe, Dec 30, 2022
    but today it is much easier to jet the carbs. put a wide band sensor in and a reader and soon you know if you need larger or smaller jets
     
  3. gcalex

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    #228 gcalex, Dec 31, 2022
    Agreed, much easier (and quantitative) than reading plugs, but I believe the “at speed”, “at load” and “closer you can get to real running conditions” comments are still applicable.
     
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    #230 nico308, Jan 1, 2023
    would love to see her in the original colours again .Side vents already on it when she was still in Belgium .
     
  6. Aardy

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    #231 Aardy, Jan 1, 2023
    0341EU in Belgium ? Are you sure ?
     
  7. Marcel Massini

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    #232 Marcel Massini, Jan 1, 2023
    0341 EU sold new 18 March 1956 to Swaters, Belgium.
    I have the factory paperwork.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #233 Aardy, Jan 1, 2023
    Completely forgotten that ! Thank you very much Marcel and Nico !
     
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    #234 kare, Jan 1, 2023
    That would be almost two years after completion!
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    #235 Marcel Massini, Jan 1, 2023
    Factory delivery note #1388, dated 18 March 1956.
    In my files (hardcopy).

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #236 kare, Jan 1, 2023
    Does that number fit into sequence with other numbered papers? Suspect a typo as according to my notes the car would have been with Swaters in March 1955 already.
     
  12. Marcel Massini

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    #237 Marcel Massini, Jan 1, 2023
    NO typo whatsoever.
    Nearby 0357 GT for example was factory invoiced 13 Februar 1956 to Swaters.
    One Nine Five Six.
    Once again, paperwork is in my archive. The originals, no copies. No photoshop, nothing made up.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #238 nico308, Jan 1, 2023
    When was the car sold to Mr Bianchi (nothing to do with the well known Bianchi family) he was a student at the University of Brussels it's what Mr O. told me .Is this car not the one used by Swaters at the KM lancé de Waterloo in 1955 ? This car was a two tone of green is this correct ?
     
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    #239 John Vardanian, Jan 1, 2023
    0341EU... anyone know the story of the side vents? Were they from a Spyder? Restoration in the early 2000's eliminated these.

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    #240 Aardy, Jan 2, 2023
    Don’t know about side vents but restoration on 0341EU is one of the worst ever with complete fantasy colours and incorrect détails. I don't understand how anyone can be proud to own such a horror... :confused:
     
  16. Aardy

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  17. Marcel Massini

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    #242 Marcel Massini, Jan 2, 2023
    All three photos copyright Marcel Massini.
    I took these 13 September 1987.

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    #243 Aardy, Jan 2, 2023
    Found its on Instagram several days ago...
     
  19. Aardy

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    #244 Aardy, Jan 2, 2023
    But please, says us more about 3D scanning in september 1987...:)
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    #245 Marcel Massini, Jan 2, 2023
    My post 242 refers to another post by fchatter NART (was originally posted in between 241 and 242) that has since been completely deleted by the admins.
    It contained 3 black white photos of 0419 GT which I had taken in September 1987. That was a clear copyright infringement and I had asked the mods to delete the entire post, which they did.
    All this has ZERO to do with you (Aardy/Cyril Teste), so, no worries please.
    All good.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  21. Marcel Massini

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    #246 Marcel Massini, Jan 2, 2023
    THIS post refers to a post that the admins have since deleted.
    Therefore please disregard this completely.
    Thank you.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  23. Aardy

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    #249 Marcel Massini, Jan 3, 2023
    Suggest you contact me privately/directly, whoever you are.
    BTW, then owner Andrea Auletta showed 0419 GT twice at the Crepaldi Ferrari Parade in Monza, 1986 and 1987.

    Marcel Massini
     
  25. Marcel Massini

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    #250 Marcel Massini, Jan 3, 2023
    You forgot the S/N, 0341 GT.
    Warren W. Fitzgerald photo (who was co-author with Richard F. Merritt on "Ferrari, The Sports and Gran Turismo Cars").

    Marcel Massini
     
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