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  1. abavai

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    Jayne Mansfield, star of Holliwood was owner of a 250 LM.
    Is NY city tha city of the picture?
    Do you know the number of the chasis of thi car?
     
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  3. amenasce

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    !! What would she do with a race car ? Did she race it ?
     
  4. abavai

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    amenasce , i don´t know.
    Here a picture a pair of woman at tour of France 1964 with a nice 250 gto/64
     
  5. mrp_e

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    that may be her, and sure that looks like a 250 lm,.. but she was the anna nicole of her era. i doubt that was her ride. my guess - she rode in a pink caddy.
     
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    I believe the hotel in the background is the Sherry-Netherland, directly across the street from The Plaza. Both hotels are adjacent to Central Park. Can anyone confirm that. Mr. G, what do you think?
     
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    And I hope you'll pardon me for being gruesome, but wasn't she beheaded in a car accident? The photo is the plaque alongside the car. Not sure if you'll be able to read it, but I'll make the attempt.
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  10. Doody

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    that decapitation thing is apparently an urban legend.

    apparently she had a wig on, which was found not with her body, as she was thrown from the vehicle. hence the rumor, based on the wig.

    doody.
     
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    According to Snopes:

    "Although Mansfield's actual mode of death was gruesome, she was not beheaded. According to the police report on the accident, "the upper portion of this white female's head was severed." Her death certificate notes a "crushed skull with avulsion (forcible separation or detachment) of cranium and brain." One thinks of a beheading as the neck's being sliced through, causing the head to be separated from the body, but that is clearly not what happened here. Scalping is perhaps a closer description of Mansfield's fate, but even that word does not accurately reflect the cranial trauma she suffered, because scalping victims at least retain an intact skull. The Angel of Death did not afford Mansfield this luxury: Her skull was cracked or sliced open, and a sizeable piece of it was carried away.

    Kenneth Anger's 1975 Hollywood Babylon contains a controversial photo of the wrecked Electra which shows Mansfield's dead dog lying beside the car, but the item in the shot that arouses discussion is what appears to be a blonde wig. Was it truly a wig, or was it the top part of Mansfield's head?"
     
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    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I have no record of any 250LM being owned by Ms Mansfield and I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who knows otherwise.
     
  14. whart

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    I remember pics of a 250LM on the streets of NYC in the early sixties. Would have to backtrack through various books and magazines to find them, but seem to remember that the car was then local, and the owner didn't have any hesitation parking in the city, even without Jane keeping abreast of things.And, in what movie did she do her best acting?
     
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    What would be even more amazing would be to see one of those on the streets of Manhattan, today...!
     
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    I think it's NYC but downtown on 3rd Ave. Other's?
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    I always liked the one where she held the two bottles of milk...
     
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    I'll have to agree with Napolis that it's downtown on 3rd.
     
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    I dont have any credable evidence that this is 8165. I simply ran the serial number through that web site thats all. The link is what came up i do not know where the car resides.
     
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    Does anyone remember the restuarant in the 1960s and 1970s somewhere in the city owned by the Dreyfoos brothers who raced Bugatis...it was a french place called La Chante Claire...my dad tells me stories of him going there and seeing Paul Newman, Mario Andretti and all the big car players of that time.
     
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    The last of the two brothers passed away several years ago.

    From what I have read, a great place owned by a gentlemen.

    They don't make race drivers like that anymore.
     
  23. BigTex

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    That pic is in Ferrari's Official Book. I was reading the other night, and there's Jayne.

    No info in the caption on why it was taken.
     
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    Dreyfus. Le Chanteclaire.

    Not sure that's exactly right, but closer. HTH

    These two brothers were in US when WW2 broke out, along with Chinetti.

    They opened the restuarant, and Chinetti started some kind of car dealership. Ba da boom.
     
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    hahahah "some kind of car dealership"

    Where was the restuarant located??
     
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    Man, it's before my time, I'm only a half century old.

    Last I heard, was an ashtray from the restaurant was sold in some memorabilia auction as a momento.

    I'll ask Mario the next time I run into him.

    Did you try a Google?
     
  28. BigTex

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    Here you go. Google results on Rene Dreyfus nets about 18,600 results.

    Chanteclair is the correct spelling. Now long gone.

    Check out "My Two Lives, from Race driver to restaureter" by Rene Dreyfus and Beverly Roe Kimes. Pub. by Aztec Corp. Tucson AZ USA.

    No longer in print. Try Ebay.

    Later, dude. I gotta clean up the leftover Superbowl Cheerleaders.


    Don't they teach how to use the library any more?????
     

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