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Ferrari 308 - Front Brake Calipers / upgrade

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  1. robo330

    robo330 Formula Junior
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    Hello.
    Has anyone had experience upgrading the Front Brake Calipers on a 308 / 328?
    I have an Alfa Romeo Montreal and the Front Calipers are ATE. I replaced them with ATE Calipers from BMW, and the results were great. Wonder if I could do something similar with the Ferrari 308 QV I have. Thanks, if anyone knows or has done this. I went looking for a thread but couldn't find anything.
     
  2. 19055

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    I fitted the "big brake package" from Superformance:

    http://www.superformance.co.uk/308/brakes.html

    When using "fresh discs, brakepads and fluid" there is not much wrong with the stock brakes, (that is on the public road) however I like the "bite" of this stuff, the stopping power is really good and I find the thought of having "overkill" on the brakes a very nice one. They require 16" rims, by the way.
     
  3. dave80gtsi

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  4. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I have the Brembo kit.

    The pads are the same as used on a Viper. It made an impressive difference back when I tracked it a lot and it didn't require a change in bias for how I used it. It's been on now for about 15 years.

    Thing Is, if you can lock up the wheels now if you want, What more do you need for the street?
     
  5. sp1der

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    Image Unavailable, Please Login Have 355 calipers on mine originally with 355 discs but now 2 piece, required some adaptors but made a big improvement to response of the brakes. Easilt firs within 16" wheel.
     
  6. SJP 5

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    Fitted 355 calipers and discs with adaptors supplied by QV who I believe developed the upgrade .
     
  7. AaronMeisner

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    My OEM front calipers were in need of replacement or at least a rebuild. I tried everything and then switched out to the Superformance kit last summer. My impression is that they work MUCH better and thus require some getting used to. The same pedal pressure that will sort of stop the car on (my) OEM setup will immediately lock the Superformance brakes. It takes a little getting used to, but the results are outstanding.

    The kit comes with a set of braided steel lines. These are different from the OEM lines, so if you have invested in SS front lines for OEM calipers before, well, you have some nice lines that you can pack away with your OEM calipers for the next owner.

    I did not go with the Superformance rear brakes--just did the fronts. I can't say that I am noticing horrible bias issues, but would be interested in what others have found.

    Pro Tip: Before you order something expensive from England, check the value of the pound vs dollar. If you look at a chart of FXB and it's pointing down, that's a good time to spend money at Superformance. When it looks over-extended to the upside, you may want to wait for a pullback.
     
  8. onboost

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    QV.. ? How does one find?

    Also assume you only upgraded the fronts as the rears you loose the parking brake with most upgrades.

    Thx
     
  9. GavC

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    Q.V. London are a specialist Indy in London well Windsor.
    qvlondon.co.uk
     
  10. dinonz308

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    Did you guys install both the front and rear kits, or just the fronts?
     
  11. SJP 5

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    Hello onboost,
    I just did a front 355 caliper and disc upgrade as I needed to keep handbrake,if one could call it one!
    I do not track my car but have found this upgrade a vast improvement for road use.
    You can find QV Ascot on Google,run by Mike and Phil who are two great blokes who live and breathe Ferrari and are always willing to offer advice and guide you.
    I would not hesitate in recommending them.,
     
  12. 19055

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    I used to have six-pod's TarOx calipers and rotors on my car, both front and rear. Fitted them back in 1997 or so. Some 3 years ago I needed new rotors for the front, which were NLA. So I fitted the Superformance set in the front, (The TarOx calipers found a good new home on one of my Alfa Romeo racers) the rear still has the TarOx calipers and rotors. The OEM calipers on the rear are still fitted for use of the parking brake. So I have no experience with brake-balance between front and rear, when using "big brake's" only in the front with stock brakes on the rear end. But given the fact that a 308 has a lot of weight in the back and the rear stock calipers are rather small, I can imagine the back to lock up more easily on heavy braking, with just "big brakes" in the front.
     
  13. onboost

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    Interesting as the 355 caliper (Brembo) appears to be the same as that of several Porsche models
    Anyone have a Brembo part number, or part number for the pads being used.. non-stock pads preferable. How about diameters of the piston, note that they can be different sizes.. 4 piston caliper 2 leading pistons may be larger than two aft pistons or vise-versa. Just a thought of cross referencing.
     
  14. sp1der

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    Try Superformance they have several pad types listed for the 355, will measure front caliper piston diameters as have a spare set not on the car
     
  15. Mike C

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