Ferrari 330 P4 #0856

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  1. johngtc

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    #26 johngtc, May 22, 2017
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    Probably one of the best people to ask about the days of David Clarke's ownership is Bob Houghton. (Bob Houghton Ferrari - History)

    Bob was David's only mechanic in the early days, before Graypaul was formally established.
     
  2. tomgt

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    I got some emails regarding history 0856
    Yes the above is correct according to the ferrari logs of the 67 sportscar races and aco documents
     
  3. miurasv

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    P4 0856 was shown by Ecurie Francorchamps on their stand at the Brussels Racing Show in December, 1967 wearing number 23 roundels along with 412P 0850.
     
  4. amenasce

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    So beautiful. Anybody have more pictures of it during its time in Switzerland? Was it used by Obrist?

    It seems Stroll does show it quite a bit (I wish i could cross path with it one day!).
     
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    #30 Marcel Massini, May 29, 2017
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    Here. Gstaad, Switzerland.

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  6. tomgt

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    Will try to scan an article from the 90s in a Dutch car magazine.
    Interview with Obrist and some photos of the collection incl 0856.
     
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    Is this collection in existence like it appears on the picture or some of the cars changed hands?

    Thank you in advance.

    :)
     
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    My god. What an amazing sight. I wonder if he ever grew tired of admiring them.

    Thanks for sharing the photo.
     
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    I think a lot of them are no longer with Mr Obrist. I seem to recall reading the Bernie bought the whole lot at once. Or maybe just the racing cars.
     
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    I highly doubt it.
     
  12. Marcel Massini

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    In 1995 Bernie got all of Albert Obrist's cars (except the NART Spider #11057 and the 250 Cal Spider #2987 GT) and kept the single seaters only and in March 1998 resold the sports and prototypes which included 0856.

    Marcel Massini
     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    See post #38.

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    Yes, you correctly quoted Mauro Forghieri and miurasv is certainly one of the most acknowledgable of the few 'non-drivers', 'non-owners' and 'non-restorers'. Otherwise please consult directly David Piper, Mauro Forghieri or Ferrari regarding this very car.
     
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    Dear Rob / Moderator
    please remove posts TTR regarding 0003/"0846"
    Thank you!

    This thread is about 0856
     
  17. nico308

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    are there some pictures showing 0856 (and maybe 0850) on the 1967 Brussels Racing Show?

    best regards
     
  18. miurasv

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    There are 2 small separate pictures of 412P 0850 and P4 0856 with number 23 at the December 1967 Brussels Racing Show (Centre Rogier) on the Garage Francorchamps stand in the book Garage Francorchamps 1952 - 2002, A Ferrari Jubilee by Denis Asselberghs.
     
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    #42 GBTR6, May 30, 2017
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    Can anyone explain the motor mounts as shown circled on 0856? And how can they be this way? I didn't think Ferrari did such a thing?
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    thank you
     
  21. piloti

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    Are you trolling? You posted this question in the 0846 debate thread and it was answered - http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/report.php?p=145396243
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  22. lgs

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    Unanswered? Before and after no questions open ...
     
  23. lgs

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    Why do you think that? They are this way because Ferrari made them like this. Again, better picture here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144765331-post8227.html
     
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    Sorry, didn't think it was answered. It seemed the "added on" style mounts that looked like this on 0856, looked the same as Jim's car. And that was shot down as not being done by Ferrari, no? It seems to me if this is how Ferrari did it on 0856, couldn't it also be that way on Jim's car? Just wondering.

    Perry
     
  25. lgs

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    0856 is different as explained and confirmed.
     
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