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ferrari 360 f1 not starting

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  1. anthony serra

    anthony serra Rookie

    Mar 8, 2015
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    Hi all,
    I have a problem with my Ferrari 360 F1. I started it this morning and as soon as I put it into reverse the engine stopped. I had not driven the car for a couple of months prior but it was on trickle charge.
    The battery is fine (12 months old and reading 12.6 volts but the F1 Gearbox light is on the dash now which I have never seen before.
    I have checked the battery, turned the battery isolator off for 20 minutes and back on with no difference,
    There is oil in the f1 reservoir (half full). It is strange there is nothing there now at all when I turn the key it's like the engine will not even try to kick over. There are 4 beeps and the f1 pump sounds normal like its priming but that is it.
    I can change the gears from 1 neutral and reverser when the ignition is on.
    I have locked and unlocked the car with the remote and there is no change.
    Any ideas people ??
    Cheers in advance.
     
  2. Ingenere

    Ingenere F1 Veteran
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    You will need to get a proper diagnostics done. If you have a generic OBD scanner, you may be able to find something out. I am thinking clutch position sensor.
     
  3. anthony serra

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    Thank you for your reply, I have a video with the sound it's making but I don't know how to post it on here. I could email it maybe...
     
  4. Ingenere

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    Have you tried scanning the car?
     
  5. whatheheck

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    Check your brake lights and 3rd brake light for burned out bulb or poor bulb base contact with the bulb socket.

    There is safety feature on 360 and F430 that wont permit the car from moving if the brake lights are not functioning well.

    Also check the engine latch switch to ensure its fully engaging when its fully closed.

    Hope that helps.

    Dan
     
  6. anthony serra

    anthony serra Rookie

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    Thank you Dan,
    I have tried these and things without luck. The car is making a strange noise but not sure what it is. I have filmed the motor when trying to start it and the noise is there, I just don't know how to post a video on here
    Cheers Anthony
     
  7. anthony serra

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    I will get it done this week I have no scanner.
    Cheers Anthony
     
  8. whatheheck

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    Hi Anthony.

    Interesting, you've tried a lot of things and still no luck......

    Kindly provide a short video of what you are hearing.
    To upload a short video - when you hit the Reply button you will see an option on the bottom right hand that says "UPLOAD A FILE". Just click on that and select the file you want to share".

    If the file is too big it wont allow you so the 2nd best thing I am aware of is just upload your file in YouTube and share us a link.

    Also pull fault codes. Download OBDFacile, buy an OBDII adapter from Amazon and share with us what fault codes are being thrown and we will try and help you.
    This is what I use for OBDII reader/adapter for my Android Phone and works great:

    https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B005NLQAHS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Kh5dDb7Q9ZDJ9

    Hope you sort this out soon as I know how frustrating it is to have issues.

    Dan
     
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  9. billy.gif

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    When only the Ignition is ON (but engine is OFF), can you go trough all gears or only said Reverse, Neutral and 1st?

    The car wont start if the Transmission Control Unit thinks that the gearbox is in gear (or the car really is in gear and TCU cannot put it Neutral). This can be symptom from a broken sensor which shows wrong reading.

    And when the Gearbox Light is on, theres error code(s) in that Transmission Control Unit. Those codes cannot be read with ordinary OBD2 -readers (BT-unit + software like Torque Pro or EOBD Facile). You need more professional scanners like Leonardo or Launch X431 pro or similar in order to read TCU codes.
     
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  10. billy.gif

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    Hey Dan,

    I greatly respect your general knowledge here in the Ferrarichat, but one cannot access to the TCU with everyday software like EOBD Facile. He said that the Gearbox Light is on meaning that there's error codes in the TCU, not at the "Check Engine department" :)
     
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  11. whatheheck

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    You are absolutely correct. I missed that. Sorry for my misunderstanding.

    Dan
     
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  12. Ingenere

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    General thought would say that is logical. However, I have a real world experience that contradicts this.

    A few years ago, I had an issue where the car wouldn't shift (at times) and sometimes shut itself off and would not restart. A gearbox light was present.

    I put a generic OBD scanner on it and the one error was 'Clutch Position Sensor'. That would obviously be a gearbox code which would be in the TCU. I replaced the Clutch Position Sensor and all was good.
     
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  13. anthony serra

    anthony serra Rookie

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    Hi Dan, thank you for the great ideas I truly appreciate your time and input to help resolve the issue.
    I have organised to have the car towed to a professional deal to have a look. I will post the results as soon as I
    find them out. Cheers Anthony
     
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  14. anthony serra

    anthony serra Rookie

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    Thanks for the idea,
    Cheers Anthony
     
  15. whatheheck

    whatheheck F1 Rookie
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    Understood.

    Thanks for letting us know.

    All the best to you Anthony.

    Dan
     

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