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FERRARI 360 SPIDER SOFT TOP ROOF HOOD HYDRAULIC LIQUID RESERVOIR HOW TO TOP IT UP

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by spiderscott, Feb 23, 2007.

  1. Silber

    Silber Karting

    Jun 6, 2014
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    Zurich, Switzerland
    Thanks again to everyone for contributing to this thread. The screw was in tight so I had to take the reservoir out to get an extension on the allen key, and it was a bit of a fiddle getting it all back on the two hangers afterwards, but got there in the end. Interestingly, the new fluid was a clear yellow colour. I filled it to half way between the bullseye and the top of the container and after one open-close cycle it dropped to the perfect mid-point where it has now stayed after a few more cycles. Hopefully that'll be it for now and I can enjoy some crisp autumn top-down motoring!

    Thanks again, and Scott give yourself a pat on the back! Cheers
     
  2. Ferrari Spider

    Ferrari Spider Karting

    Jan 16, 2012
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    Having the same issue with my top, i can hear the pump running but no movement in the top. Going to purchase the Mercedes oil today, would 1 litre be enough?
     
  3. Silber

    Silber Karting

    Jun 6, 2014
    84
    Zurich, Switzerland
    Yes, 1 litre is plenty.

    Just to update the thread, both my hydraulic pumps needed replacing, which was nice within a month of buying the car. At least is awesome fun and sounds rediculous with the hood down!
     
  4. gsworld2014

    gsworld2014 Formula Junior

    Dec 23, 2014
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    Last night went to put the top down and it stopped as soon as the front opened and smoke came out of the engine bay. I stopped the car and looked to find a bunch of hydraulic fluid in the bottom pan. Does anyone know what happened here? Is it a broken hose? Or something worse. I closed the top manually with the tool and now the light stays on and if I go over 20 in the car it buzzes with a warning sound.

    I can't get the car to the shop until Monday but I want to have an idea what it is
     
  5. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

    Sep 20, 2013
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    Yikes, that was scary. Hope it was repaired ok for you. Mine is starting to hesitate. Always closes after a couple attempts. Normally happens when you have the top down during a show, on a warm engine after a drive to the place. I think my car was stored with the top down as well. Only 2 owners before me but too much time all wrinkled up. So I have creases in the rear fairing areas and drivers side strap is getting loose. Not too bad though. Where are the plastic clips on the panel? I might heat them up with a hair dryer first, though it's plenty hot now ;)
     
  6. John_K_348

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    I checked the level yesterday. The plastic pins on the door edge were already broken. Car was serviced at dealer last year before I bought it. The two on the inside were fine and the weatherstrip holds the outer edge securely. The level was fine and even on the top line of max on the circle. The fluid was dark, however. I got a set of stubby Allen keys and an oil trigger can. so I think I may try and swap it out anyway. How low can you take the level in the tank without getting air in the system? I suppose it might self bleed by exercising it several times. I can check a diagram in the meantime. When my top stops, it is usually all the way down, from being closed, the cover opens, but then the top never starts it way up from fully down. I release the switch, the cover sags back down, the system beeps and throws the light, then I start it again everything whirs like it does every time, but then the top starts moving as usual. You know, it even did this on my test drive but at that point, I figured it was Italian logic circuits and character quirks. So every time it has balked, all I have to do is wait a couple seconds, try again and it works. I wonder if the straps could effect this? The only stretching I notice, is on the fairing triangle over the drivers headrest. The seam and pocket along that line is a little loose. Passenger side is fine.
     
  7. Pagoda1966

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    Dec 13, 2017
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    Spiderscott, your legacy lives on my friend - another happy customer !

    I am not handy with the scanners and can't believe I'm sitting here having FIXED A FERRARI !

    The fluid was only a little low and I was sceptical whether this would do the trick. Half an hour to strip it down, one anxious day waiting for the Mercedes fluid to arrive, half an hour to put it back together and voila - 25 seconds and the roof is up / down !

    Against a backdrop of £17k for a new roof, if I'd put this into a garage and they'd presented me with a £2k bill, I'd have been delighted. Can you imagine how chuffed I am with a £12.66 bill and I did it myself ?!?! Next stop engine rebuild (joking of course!).

    Thanks again buddy, really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.
     
  8. spiderscott

    spiderscott Formula 3

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    Very happy that 10 years on my thread is still helping you guys out and saving you some big bills

    cheers
    Scott
     
  9. spiderscott

    spiderscott Formula 3

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    Pretty impressive that its also had 44 thousand views in that time :)
     
  10. Dan Troy

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    May 27, 2018
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    I've had nothing but problems with my 2001 360 convertible top I had 2 different shops look at it and each time it was better and then it would slow down and stop working last summer I had a local Ferrari dealer look at it and of course you know what that costand it stopped working this week .So I filled it just like you said and the thing worked like a champ.
    Thanks
     
  11. Bob in Makiki

    Bob in Makiki Formula Junior
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    May 30, 2017
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    Hey Dan. Welcome to Ferrari Chat. There is some terrific information here. I hope you will stick around and participate. This Technical Forum is great. I think you will also find the 360 Forum to be full of good folks. Join us!
     
  12. Poi Dog

    Poi Dog Rookie

    Oct 16, 2017
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    Left Coast Florida
    The boards on the internet are great. Actually makes owning a Ferrari affordable (relatively speaking) . My issue, a slow top also, filled it up and works like a charm. Thanks guys.
     
  13. Serge Mallat

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    Jan 6, 2018
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    I want to thank you for the detailed pictures. My top would not fold down all the way. We followed your pictures because it seems that that was the most common issue (fluid). All we did is add some of the Mercedes fluid and top worked immediately. Well done. Thank you for taking the time to take the pictures step by step. Forza Ferrari!!!!!! SeSe
     
  14. Dano360NC

    Dano360NC Karting
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    Thank you. My visions of dollars flying out the window may have been premature. I will have to try this out.
     
  15. tmvatlanta

    tmvatlanta Karting

    Mar 26, 2017
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    Anyone has issue of the fluid leaking? I filled it up and after just 1 closing/opening cycle, the fluid is low again. Can't find where it's leaking from. Can a Leonardo read the code or identify the problem?
     
  16. mello

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    A leak is unlikely. It has happened to me when I was changing out the fluid. I have to cycle the top a few times to bleed out the air. Fill it up again as needed. Good luck.

    edit: BTW, run the engine when operating the top, so that the pump will give full head pressure to ensure a good fluid circulation.
     
  17. tmvatlanta

    tmvatlanta Karting

    Mar 26, 2017
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    I'll try that. Thank you
     
  18. Astrong16103

    Astrong16103 Rookie

    Mar 13, 2013
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    Detroit, MI
    Had similar hesitation problems. 2006 430. Then a big dramatic frozen-while-half-way-open moment. After a rest it wouldn’t close but at least stowed. Now it will only open until the roof section should flip forward to close to the windshield - then gives up when the motor times out. When fully open and stowed, the car flips out and beeps endlessly while driving. As it turns out - my fluid is too high when stowed. Awaiting the aforementioned fluid and will try a bleed and possibly fluid change. Anything else you guys can think of? Fingers crossed
     

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  19. Garagem743

    Garagem743 Rookie

    Nov 13, 2019
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    Good afternoon,
    Can anyone help me, I need the Modena Spider 360 2004 roof disassembly and mounting procedure?
    Thank you
     
  20. 2NA

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    Dec 29, 2006
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    What part do you need help with? The procedures are described in both the 360 and F430 Spider Workshop Manuals. The Capote Assemblies are identical.
     
  21. 2NA

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    Hold onto that vision. It is possible to shovel huge amounts of money at one.
     

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