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Ferrari 360 Swiss Army Knife by 360trev!

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  1. gobuffs2002

    gobuffs2002 Karting
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    Great read and some really exceptional work.
    Thank you Trev. I'm looking forward to seeing and purchasing the final product.

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  2. 24000rpm

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    it is over most poeople's head actually. mostly because of those abbreviations we don't understand, for example, what is "PHY"?

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  3. MCASEY

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    Hello,

    Great job, fantastic to read all this information, very stimulating.

    What would be a pratical RPM limit to apply to a STD 2004 Modena engine? I would like to try 9000rpm? Open to any ideas or suggestions from others.

    I will have larger MAF's and Std exhaust to start everything else STD.

    Will the larger MAF's and extra RPM lift the peak power point? Do the CS's make max power higher in the RPM?

    Thanks ALL.

    Matthew
     
  4. chnco

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    I can’t wait to see the final product, that’s what I’m waiting for!!!
     
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  5. duck.co.za

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    I read some Ferrari literature that indicated that the 355 engine had been designed for 10000rpm . They reduced this in the production engines for longevity . The 355 and 360 engines are very similar both having 5 valve heads among other things . The Pankl 355 Ti rods are properly engineered pieces of kit , they use the rod bolt to locate the bearing cap on the rod . On the 360 Pankl Ti rod they moved to I think a cheaper dowel to locate the bearing cap ( removing material from rod bolt thread area to allow for the dowel ) This was probably done because of the much high production numbers of 360's and wanting to save costs .
    Interesting to see that the Challenge race cars rev to 9500rpm , mileage is not a big issue with these motors as they get rebuilt/freshened often .
     
  6. DonJuan348

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    Late to this thread . Will this increase low end power where it is desperately needed. Immo delete desperately needed by me
     
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  7. Aus360C

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    Thanks 360Trev this is brilliant , do you have any timing table comparisons for the Modena vs Challenge vs CS, I also have some spare EUC's however I need to Virginize or disable immobiliser, Have you had any break-thoughts regarding this.
     
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  8. 360trev

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    Won't be long now.. Pm me and we will get you on the waiting list ;)
     
  9. 360trev

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    Immo is done and in testing. Fully passing all tests done so far. The curious thing is I decided to opt to remove the entire immobilizer and alarm system, including keyfob the lot out of the car. Its actually meant that my car (which still has full batt backed up tracker system) now lasts 3 weeks+ (and still going strong) on battery without needing to be hooked up to a tender... That damn old bosh system was responsible for depleting the battery and requiring our cars to be tethered to a tender. Not my car.. My replacement alarm/immo will be hyper energy efficient so as to continue this as I really like it! ;)
     
  10. 360trev

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    Don't forget to pull the latest version regularly from github, lots of changing going on daily and now LOTS of new features. More coming v.soon. Going to add ability to compare roms with one another v.soon
     
  11. 360trev

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    When you show any map you can use the -hex and -adr options and also sometimes you may wish to use -nophy too. PHY is the original value from a map translated to a physical representation of the value so it's easier to understand.

    Bosch on these older ECUs had to be super efficient so stored numbers in a different format to fit into 8 or 16 bit representation (1 or 2 letters per cell entry) yet they can still represent much higher values by taking the stored value and multiplying it by a given conversion factor so it means something. The PHY value is that converted value, the ADR is the ROM address it's located at and the HEX is the raw value directly dumped from the table. You can use the addresses to directly access the correct offset in the ROM file you wish to edit, the hex value shows what you expect it to look like and the physical (translated) number what that hex represents.

    If you need more info I can give some examples...
     
  12. hessank

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    I got lost a long time ago but am following closely because I have my screwdriver set at ready to remove
    the Immo parts that will no longer be required or my ratchet set to install whatever it is that Trev is brewing up.
    So bring it on dude!
     
  13. mello

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    Very nice work. :)
     
  14. 24000rpm

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    its a real shame that I have an undergraduate degree in electrical engineering and my final project in college is , if my memory serves me, about to make a circuit board to read a chip's value and somehow modify it to suit a particular purpose. Yet I forgot all of those........
     
  15. gobuffs2002

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    I keep reading, learning and getting excited for the eventual results and what features will be available for my 2002 F1 Modena. Keep up the great work Trev!
     
  16. SS288GTO

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    Wow :) Very very impressed of your work 360trev
    I am new to this Ferrari ownership. I just changed my manual Porsche 993 to a Ferrari 360 Modena F1. I love the car, but since i Bought it two months a go I have experienced the problems with the immobiliser... For no apparent reasson there is no power to the starter motor. so i guess this must be the problem I have.
    So I am very interested in the endproduct here. A bit worried how the get this solved.. But I am a customer anyway!
     

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