Ferrari 458 Speciale w/ Straight Pipes Exhaust!

Any issues with ECu Error?
I keep getting an error with my 200 CEL cats from Capristo.

 

I believe that Marlboro livery Speciale has a Frequency Intelligence (Fi) exhaust with straight pipes. I think it's the best sounding exhaust I've heard on a Speciale (based on the youtube video).

You're going to get check engine light, but I've been told that you can have the car tuned (apparently they can make changes to improve performance and somehow they can also eliminate the CEL problem ). I'm sure a lot of people do this, but it makes me uncomfortable...I'm almost certain this would void the Ferrari factory warranty.

I'm considering replacing "only" the OEM silencer with an Fi exhaust. They offer two for the Speciale: the Evolution and a new one called Ultimate Race. I've been told the Ultimate Race exhaust has a smaller silencer than the Evolution so presumably it will be a bit louder. One Fi distributor that I've been talking to told me that Fi says either of their exhaust options will still sound good with OEM cats...albeit not as loud and extreme as it would be if you replace the OEM cats with straight pipes. I'm thinking that I'll try the Fi Ultimate Race exhaust and hopefully it will improve the quality and volume of the OEM Speciale exhaust. If I want more then the next step would be to replace the OEM cats (they're 800 cell I believe) with high flow cats (200 cell). The downside is this may cause CEL issues. Although Travis at FabSpeed (fchat sponsor I believe) told me they rarely get complaints from customers using their high flow cats (200 cell) when combined with their "O2 Spacers"... I don't even know what this is but it's worth pursuing in hopes of avoiding CEL issues.

 

Wow! that sound is crazy

 

Crazy sound!!

 

I have to say... that's pretty tempting....

... but I don't want any check engine light issues with my car...

Rick, I'll let you be the test guinea pig!! Let us know if/what you do...

 

I'm going to take my Speciale back to California in November, and while I'm there I'll get it lowered just a little (seems 15-20mm is what most people do) and an alignment. I'll also do "something" to the exhaust... I'll post whatever I end up doing

 

Excellent... Looking forward to hearing what you do... Literally!

 

May i know what is the price of the Fi ultimate race exhaust?

 

I have the exact setup on my car. 2k miles and no CEL lights.

I'm inquiring about the new version but as I mentioned before, I have a hard time thinking it will sound better than the Evolution.

 

Fantastic sound!

The only way to get that kind of sound is by replacing the oem cats to either
straight pipes or 200 cell cats (not 100 cells as they are not fit for street use).

As far as the check engine light (CEL) is concerned:

You might get lucky and have a forgiving car and not get any CEL's
even with a straight pipe system (as is the case with Robert's car).

However, if you have either straight pipes or 200 cell cats you will most likely
get a CEL, especially if you run high octane fuel (100 aki or higher).

If you have a straight pipe or 200 cell setup you can avoid CEL's by:

- Having a portable obd 2 reader in the car which (plugged in the obd port
under the steering wheel) with which you can cancel the CEL upon every startup
(the CEL will however return every time the car is restarted and will need to be
canceled with the reader, the CEL will then remain off until the next time the car
is restarted). I am using this option as I want to keep the original oem 2010 ecu
map that gives the pops and crackles on the exhaust overrun.

- Install O2 sensor spacers: these spacers put the exhaust's O2 sensor's a bit
further away from the exhaust path so as to simulate normal readings.
I have, however, heard that this system has been inefficient in solving CEL
problems in many cars.

- Have an aftermarket tune of the ecu that is designed not to have the car throw
a CEL light with such applications.

- Aftermarket exhaust manufacturers are now also developing other solutions to
take care of CEL lights as Frequency Intelligent's catalytic simulator system.

best

 

No matter how much it's massaged or modified, a turbo 488 will NEVER sound this good!

 

+1

Ferrari seems to be paying the 'price' of having built a car, and an engine, which are
just impossible to top

Guess what: hold on to your NA V8's!

 

Hi Robert,

An Fi distributor told me the Ultimate Race exhaust has smaller mufflers than the Evolution exhaust so "the sound is more intense". Hard to imagine, huh? I'm trying to find more info on the Fi catalytic simulator system. I'd really like to find a way to eliminate CEL issues completely. The OBD 2 option might be okay. Let's stay in touch in case you decide to switch to Ultimate Race. Your Evolution exhaust might be fine for me.

 

The Fi distributor I spoke to said the Evolution exhaust and the Ultimate Race exhaust cost the same $6850.

 

Was so fun to drive this Speciale, a straight pipe always make everyone happier

 

Grazie Marco, bellissima video!

Please let us know the car's exhaust setup if you can (brand, headers, cats, mufflers?)

Ciao!

 

There's another video of this same car and it says it has a Frequency Intelligence exhaust. Since they just came out the the Fi Ultimate Race exhaust this car probably has the Fi Evolution exhaust (same as Robert). And in Marco's post he mentions that straight pipes makes everybody happy so it's a safe bet it has straight pipes no mention of headers though.

http://youtu.be/pRYwnTvi3UE

 

I have Ferrari sport exhaust, but I am thinking I might have to install some 200 cell cats as well. Love the sound now. Looks like I will have to keep my 458 and sell another car when my 488 comes in one day. The N/A engine in the 458 is a keeper.

 

Hi Carlo,

I read some information about Fi's "catalytic simulator" on their website
Frequency Intelligent Exhaust - Valvetronic Technology for Supercars

It sounds like they are calling their catalytic converters "catalytic simulators"?? They say you don't have to worry about check engine lights using their catalytic simulators (cats), but they don't really say how it stops CELs. They explain they use metallic cats versus ceramic and somehow this solves CEL issues?? Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

Can anybody elaborate on this?

Thank you

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No turbo car sounds like this. Insane sound. I love it!

 

Is there a dealer at the east coast? Apparently they also have the 200 cell cats. Anyone knows how much the whole setup costs (Ultimate Race Version, Sport Type 200 CPSI cats and the catalytic simulator)?

 

Have a look at this turbo engine, 7 500 rpm, 720 hp (normally 478 hp for 7 000 rpm): [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPabCzxMXM[/ame]
Not too bad for a turbo engine!