Dear Administrator, Next he'll just need out credit card details....We all enjoy this site. If this bloke is full of **** and a scam artist - attempting to rip off real F-Chatters - block the ****er off the site. Get rid of him pls.
First off I have no horse in this race either way. I am not for or against Refined Marques. I simply stumbled across this thread. A couple of things I have noticed: 1) There is nothing wrong with being a broker, if that's what Refined Marques is. However it looks as if they (he?) are trying to come across as a full-fledged dealer. A dealer means you have possession of the cars and that you own them. If this is the case, it should be simple to just go out and take a picture of the showroom and/or all the cars together. The fact that the website has nothing but pictures of cars in other dealerships or even stock advertising photos from the manufacturers themselves is very disturbing. 2) If RM is in fact a dealer, I assume that they are just as interested in PURCHASING cars as they are selling them. Is RM looking to purchase any exotics? Will they take my exotic in trade? 3) A Google satellite view of the address they provide on their website (they even have a Google Maps pushpin marking their address on a map) shows a residential neighborhood. Very nice houses with swimming pools. No large buildings that could house a bunch of cars though. Again, if RM is a broker, that is fine. There is no shame in that. But I can't see them being a legitimate dealer. Just my $0.02.
ROFL! You want to gain clients, so instead you bad mouth members here, you won't answer peoples questions about your company and you say that it's not nice. C'mon! You sure that YOU didn't start off on the wrong foot? Slapping a copyright/'logo' doesn't exactly mean you can claim it as yours as I've seen original pictures of images that are also on your website. By the way, someone here posted something about the Bugatti, you in turn asked if they were sure. Did you know that person works for Bugatti? The Golden Rule comes into play here: "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself." Remember that your posts aren't making 'your company' look good at all. I don't care if you have clients flying in, if you dodge and don't answer questions, you aren't showing serious intentions in selling the vehicles you claim to be selling.
Actually, I kind of enjoy his responses to legitimate questions. I am waiting to see what will be the response to my post.
on the google satellite view as you said its the office where we have one full floor and in underground parking few cars are parked in (and of course you can't see that by satellite). and most of the cars are either kept in free trade areas or some are kept with other dealers with agreements that we have with them. and those are confidential agreements which we dont disclose. so you can come and pay us a visit if you want to, so you can see it. it's like you are going to see HEINZ and ask them there secret receipe, what do you think the answer will be? and being at that residential area is for various reasons, first security, second when we have VIP or celebreties coming then you cant go through the 2 gates and security or media to be able to film and there are 3 entries for the office, so we are quite sure of not atteacting too much attention when clients walk in and out. and Europe is not the same as in america, that we have to park cars in and out to be so called dealer or selling cars. and we have another approach of how we do our business. so of course looking from outside and not asking but assuming stupid assumptions like some do in this chat, they can talk loads of **** but they dont know details, so thats why our answers come through media coverage that is been done on us. and very soon you will be hearing something about us, to make all those idiots that just talk none sense and insult shut up for good; and of course they will try to say or add some more to get a subject out or make a stupid comment.
hey mr smart, our 900HP Aventador will be readu wihtin 10 days and will be media coverage on it, wanna come over to test it and to proove to you that its not the underground car as you post. what an idiot you are
may be you should notice that i am making fun of that person and not taking anything of what you and other insults serious, because its the only way to deal with you. and if you think i will change my voice tone, well no i wont, because a respectable client, would ask, inquire and if interested would fly down and come and see us for hte car and then we ship it, which have been done in america before, but due to confidentiality we dont disclose information. i would treat anyone with respect as long as they would respect and ask in a proper respectable way, and not just jumping like idiots and making assumptions and conclusions that have nothing to do with reality. and trust me when i tell you we dont run after clients, neither call non stop, or try to push them to buy, like some unprofessional idiots do and then once the client paid they dump him and move to the other one, as they run after numbers. since you dont know who i am, what i do where i come from, dont allow yourself to make such stupid comments
i htink you better change your tone here and dont use words that are stupid, because hiding from what rob we dont hide, we are here same address, phones, emails, nothing changed, you are just the type that writes and think after and of course if you have something left in your brains to help you think that of course if you can think straight
I wasn't implying that it was the car that UR is working on. The post was merely asking about a 900 HP Aventador and I replied with a link to where he can find one. UR has established a history over the last few years of building some very fast and very nice high-end turbocharged cars. BRADAN is another vendor on this forum that has done some very nice work in this same area as well. Your responses to people's legitimate questions and concerns raise up multiple and alarming red flags. I find it hard to believe that you will attract many customers by calling them idiots for merely displaying some apprehension and concern, especially when hundreds of thousands of dollars are on the line. You are a new player in a game where there are many well-established dealers - with years and years of documented service and history - for us to choose from. It appears to me that you are going out of your way to "prove" your legitimacy, when really all you needed to do was sell a few cars and start building a reputation for yourself. But that is just my humble opinion. Take it for all that it is worth. Thank you for your comments and I wish you all the best.
and for your information, that we did the first Ferrari California 560 HP upgrade package and the client is in cannes.
