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Ferrari 488 Pista on the track

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by kevin1244, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. kevin1244

    kevin1244 Formula Junior

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    If you haven't seen it...I am generally not a fan of turbo engines' sound, but Pista has a lovely turbo whine...



     
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  3. plastique999

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    Amazing car, but where was the sound?


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  4. anishka

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    Has anyone here heard the pista in the flesh?

    I know video sound has its limitations, but the few videos I have heard have left me less than moved.
     
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  6. nmcclure

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    haha.....yea. I will say they do a better job than their peers....but NA>>>>>>Turbo when it comes to sound. When F1 made the change, the races became a snooze fest for me.
     
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  8. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Nice looking.... Pretty dull sounding...
     
  9. F430Modena

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    I was at Barcelona too, and the car doesnt had a striking sound , and when the Scud came to the track the difference was like wine / watter :D

    The new models had many regulations to cut the sound, i dont know what happen when we had 599GTO or a Scud with sweet soundtrack from the engine , since then the cars lost the soul.

    Only one 488 Spider had a nice soundtrack but the exhaust wasnt stock.


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  10. noone1

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    Sounds like every other mediocre turbo car in that video. Nothing noteoworthy IMO.
     
  11. freshmeat

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    Looks great, but sounds like sh!et.

     
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  13. wrs

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    I really liked the Maserati GT on looks and I had heard it also sounds terrific. So my wife wants the convertible version and we currently own a QP with the 530hp TT V8. The GT has a 454hp NA engine and so when we tested the car it sounded fabulous but when it was my turn to drive and I stepped on the gas, it was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. The QP is much faster. This is exactly how the Pista compares to the previous NA F cars including the Speciale and the 458, by comparison those cars are SLOOOW and getting SLOOOOOOOOOOWER.

    You can't make the NA car faster but you can make the Turbo car sound better in a number of ways. I know because I have done this with previous turbo cars I own and I am currently doing it to my 488. Furthermore, if you want to tweak the turbo cars with a tune, there is plenty more hp to be gotten by using a modified ECU map, making the car even faster. Can't do that with NA.
     
  14. dustman

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    I'll be very interested if you can get a semblance of great sound out of the 488. Have yet to hear one modded 488 that stacks up yet, but hopeful you can achieve it!
     
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  15. Bendrover

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    I have watched that video before and had the same thought - Not impressive! I have watched other video's where the Pista sounded much better. Will just have to wait and see in person what it sounds like and do an aftermarket exhaust if needed.
     
  16. boobernackle

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    Engine sounds like a typical 488. Much of the extra noise you're hearing on the track is tire noise, keep in mind the Pista comes with more aggressive rubber than other 488 cars, which means more tire noise.
     
  17. Solid State

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    A common sense example of the ease of gaining easy power from a forced induction motor. These turbo cars are for the masses whereby the NA's are for those seeking OEM engine brilliance: 2012 599 GTB had (612 hp@7,600 rpm/448 lb-ft) and 2013 Laf had (789 hp@9,000 rpm/516 lf-ft). Same F140 series NA V12 engine. For reference, 2014 track FXX-K had 848 hp@9,250rpm with F140 engine and it's got the smaller V12 compared to the 812s.
     
  18. Caeruleus11

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    I think your main point that turbo engines are usually easier to tune is correct. But I think Ferrari has gone to such great lengths with their turbo motors that I don't know if the typical tuning methods would yield much of a result. I can tell you I have done some work to my 458 and its now making a good 50hp over stock, so its still possible to get some more power out of NA. And the sound is fantastic! However, you are right, the world changes and we are now in the era of turbo.

    I didn't really hear that. It sounds to me like a better sounding 488 but still a 488. I also think tire makers engineer in the noise as a way to give you feedback that you are approaching the limit of adhesion.
     
  19. bobbyd

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    Guess for $500K you can't have everything in a modern Ferrari.

    Too bad as for many a signature feature of Ferrari had always been the sound.......
     
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    Never forget, it’s a sports car, no race car ;-)
     

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