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  1. Brian L

    Brian L Formula 3

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    Yea, I'm not liking it on anything so far. Especially the turn in/turn out artifacts. Technically better, like a turbo, yet not as much joy.

    In any car I want a predictable feeling in the rear end ... for a close relationship to the weight, and a non turbo pedal for a close relationship to the engine. Electric + NA probably ok.
     
  2. KenU

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    What is the name of the gray color @ 10:35? I think he mentioned it but I'm not fluent in Italian...I did catch him saying Rosso when getting back to the red car ;-)
     
  3. montpellier

    montpellier Formula Junior

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    He actually uses them ! More than most people on here. But he buys Ferrari and uses the them far more than any average UK owner, he drives and uses them day to day. So sadly for you, he is a real owner, doing far more mileage than average owners and in real world conditions. You clearly dislike him, that is fine, but get your facts right before getting your capital letters out again.
     
  4. Scraggy

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    Isn't it like a few millimetres ? Can you REALLY tell ?
     
  5. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    It's painfully obvious that Ferrari believes the technology to be an improvement.

    It debuted with the TDF and now carried on with the Lusso and 812.
     
  6. Brian L

    Brian L Formula 3

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    Nah, we are just lying.
     
  7. Camlet1

    Camlet1 Formula 3

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    Firstly, I think the 812 looks sensational in the videos, so much so it is now tickling my fancy. I have a tdf and before the videos couldn't see the point of adding an 812 to the stable.

    Second, Shmee deserves 100% credit. The naysayers can whinge on, there's more than a whiff of envy about some of the harsh comments directed at him. The lad is a natural entrepreneur. Who cares if his father gave him cash to start, building the Shmee brand took considerable smarts. And if anyone believes his reviews should be heavyweight and neutral, that's like complaining KFC doesn't sell Scaloppini di Pollo.

    Third, Facebook has several million SMB (small medium business) clients, spending in many cases tens of millions of dollars with the platform. This is what's powering Facebook, not big international brands, though Fb will happily up their spend too. And talking of Facebook, there are individuals on Instagram who are generating millions of dollars in revenues from direct sales off the platform. Less a concept, more a multi-billion dollar industry.
     
  8. deltona

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    He doesn't actually say the name of the grey car but I think it's most likely Ferro or possibly Titanio.
     
  9. Griffon83

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    As deltona said he doesn't mention the specific paint color.

    He just says how different the aerodynamic designs look in darker colors relevant to the "rosso".
     
  10. DavidJames1

    DavidJames1 Formula 3

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    Well said
     
  11. abdulla.alhajri

    abdulla.alhajri Karting

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    Any one know if the 812 SF will have similar to GTC lusso led shift lights.
    In the configurator it shows otherwise.
     
  12. KenU

    KenU Formula Junior

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    Thanks guys!
     
  13. Ron328

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    Totally.
     
  14. Scraggy

    Scraggy Formula 3

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    Call me a Luddite but what is credit deserved for ? Posting medium quality, cheaply produced videos that look like they are shot on an IPhone dressed like an old money English twit ?

    Goodness knows who subscribes ?
     
  15. Scraggy

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    Am not suggesting that Brian I just know it's mm and can't believe it makes so much difference. I always found my F12 to be not very "nimble" and compact feeling so would have though 4WS was a good thing. Await seeing.
     
  16. deltona

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    It's the same steering wheel as the Lusso so I'm sure it will have the same LEDs when specified with Carbon Steering a Wheel.
     
  17. NeilF8888

    NeilF8888 Formula 3

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  18. Lukeylikey

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    Makes a huge difference. On limit handling was transformed by Ferrari going from 360 to 430. Their main alteration was something like an added half millimetre rear toe. I tried it on my CS in conjunction with removing the toe-in at the front. Transformed the car and massively sharpened the front while securing the rear. Hard to believe such a small adjustment makes such a big difference but true.

    I think this is a very smart new direction for Ferrari. The future is extra power, and through a front engined powetrain more will need to be done to keep these cars manageable. As Ferrari get better and better at this it will allow them to keep making more and more powerful and higher torque front/rear V12s. What's not to like?

    This is as big a piece of technology as 4wd, yet it doesn't have the drawbacks of 4wd for a performance car - weight and torque going through the steering wheels. As usual I don't really agree with Brian's preference for a 'fixed' rear. The answer to that question is 'it depends'. But to knock rws is to close your mind to what developments may be around the corner. On the 458/488 board there is a conversation about whether McLaren is moving ahead of Ferrari technologically. I can't see that being even close to true, and what's happening on the V12 product line - a line McLaren doesn't even have yet - is another piece of evidence for that.
     
  19. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

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    everything right and well said, alignment matter tremendously to those who know what they're driving and yes, its a matter of millimeters.....but McLaren is not moving ahead of Ferrari...they are on another planet than Ferrari....
     
  20. Lesia44

    Lesia44 F1 World Champ
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    That's exactly what I was thinking. Maybe standing on street corners and uploading videos is all you need to do these days to get credit.
     
  21. REALZEUS

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    On a planet where they don't know how to make N/A V12 engines? :D
     
  22. MDEL

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    From almost every point of view it seems that 4ws is something positive and a future must for rear traction Ferraris as extra power is added. However I wonder if the driving sensation when curving is that different and more in line with the 4wd models ?
     
  23. Scraggy

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    Why would V12 N/A be in business plan, tiny niche market and old fashioned (abut gorgeous) format. Knocking Mac is fashionable on FChat, it's hard when your soccer team is not the best in all positions. Its a great engineering led business and will be good for Ferrari. Expect 488 Speciale to be a bigger step up than expected/planned a year ago.
     
  24. Traveller

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    Absolutely correct, and it wouldn't have been without MCL producing the 720. Indeed it might even have a hybrid element to try and jump the 720 tech.
     
  25. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    If Le Mans is still a test bed for cutting edge technology which can trickle down to sports cars, let's consider the Porsche LMP1

    Small disclacement 4 cylinder
    turbo with hybrid and with regenerative strategies.

    Ferrari will probably be forced to explore this type of platform too.

    But don't worry. My money is with the team at Maranello to continue to make exceptional cars which stir our hearts.
     

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