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Ferrari Announces LMH Factory Program!

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  1. maha

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    scenario 1- lmh would borrow design cues from the next laferrari and most probably will use the new v6 if though next laf uses a v12.
    scenario 2- a ground up design with v6 later some road going homologated hypercars and it may not replace the laferrari but a different hypercar.
    scenario 3- ground up design with no road going hypercar version but initially the fia-wec told "at least 25 cars equipped with the engine and 25 cars equipped with the hybrid system must be produced by the end of the year after the climax of the first season in which they are used in the WEC. Those figures rise to 100 units after the end of the second season.
    we have to wait and see
     
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  3. 444sp

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    You are right the V6 TT would be the logical choice but I hope they will use the new V12 from the next Laferrari,
    Considering that the BOP could make up some deficiencies.
     
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    LMH program doesn’t require a road version of the prototype. But for sure it would be great if Ferrari could produce a road car version!
     
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    The ACO Hypercar rules are like moving sands; they keep changing all the time.

    Hypercar was supposed to be for hybrid cars supported by a limited production, initially.

    Now, it's found out that neither Glikenhaus, nor ByKolles will have hybrid system, and none will produce street cars!!

    It seems that only Toyota will stick to the original scenario and present hybrid cars. We don't know yet about Peugeot.

    I also found looking at their presentation video, that SCG (Glikenhaus) car will have central driving.

    OK by me, but the series is for 2-seater, and I'll be damned if the SCG 7 can carry a passenger !!! More liberal interpretations of the rules ...
     
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    Scenario 2 i guess.There is a lot of money to be made on this operation
     
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    Pierre Fillon ACO chairman and brother of former french prime minister Francois Fillon is a very smart and passionate man.

    I have no doubt that he will restore this race to its former glory.
     
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    With the delay of Le Mans to August 21 and 22, the month that F1 is on vacation, it would be a great opportunity for Leclerc and Sainz to race the AF Corse Ferrari 488s and thus gain experience at Le Mans. AF Corse has only 2 drivers per car for the WEC so they need to name the third driver of each car for Le Mans.
     
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    This particular Mule has nothing to do with the LMH Project, in fact Ferrari used it in 2013 to test some of the F1 V6 Components.
     
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    that picture is for visual impressions only.
     
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    https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/ferrari-to-draw-on-f1-expertise-for-lmh-program/

    The head of Ferrari’s sports car racing department believes the manufacturer has an “opportunity” to draw on the expertise of its Formula 1 team for the development of its Le Mans Hypercar, which is set to hit the track next spring for a 2023 race debut.

    The Italian marque recently declared its commitment to the LMH formula with a program that will deliver Maranello’s first factory involvement at the top level of prototype racing in half a century.

    The project will involve staff from different areas of the Ferrari group, according to Antonello Coletta who is the director of the Competizione GT sports car racing division.

    Personnel currently working on Ferrari’s GT racing projects will be heavily involved, while members of the Grand Prix team are also set to contribute their skills and create a link between two hybrid powertrain programs.

    Formula 1’s introduction of a budget cap for the 2021 season has enabled Ferrari to move some of its staff from that program to its new flagship sports car racing venture.

    However, Coletta stressed that the reduction of the F1 team budget to $145 million for this year did not influence Ferrari’s board-level decision to approve an LMH program.

    “If we share with F1, it’s good for us,” said Coletta. “If we can consider some people from the F1 department, why not?

    “But the decision [to do LMH] has been for a strategic matter and not as a consequence of the new F1 rules.

    “Of course the expertise of the F1 department is consistent and will be an opportunity for us. Ferrari is one company and it’s normal that we share all the experience that we have in our factory.

    “It is normal for us… but not because we are in LMH. In GTE, it’s exactly the same [where] we don’t have the hybrid. In any case, we share all the experience that we have.”

    Coletta explained that the composition of Ferrari’s LMH team is “a work in progress” and that the company is not yet ready to divulge the individuals who are set to lead the technical side of the project.

    But he indicated that “more and more people” from the GT programs will go on to work on LMH, combined with personnel bringing “good experience” from other departments.

    “It’s possible that we are under the same roof and Ferrari is just one,” said Coletta.

    “With the new rules in F1, it should mean that we consider some people of the F1 department. But in any case, our decision is not the consequence of the new rules of F1.”

    Rather, Ferrari’s decision to re-enter prototype racing was made on the “strategic” basis of it being able to compete for outright victories in events like the 24 Hours of Le Mans with a vehicle that provides an identifiable link to its road car range.

    This desire helped sway its choice to pursue LMH over the global LMDh platform which, although cheaper, would have prevented Ferrari from producing a true car of its own by cornering it into selecting from one of four designated LMP2 chassis builders.

    “To have a link, for me, is to have the engine or the hybrid parts for example,” said Coletta.

    “These are parts that we can put on the road cars of the future, because why not? We can make an experience today and put on the road cars tomorrow.”

    When asked about the factors that made LMH financially viable, Coletta indicated that the F1 budget cap came as a “coincidence” and that other reasons took precedence.

    “Year by year, it will be more or less the same as GTE or not more expensive,” he said.

    “When we decide to go ahead, we take the actual economics and the future economics.

    “The most important difference is the cost is completely less expensive than LMP1 [was]. In any case, the decision is not for the economics. The decision is strategic.”

    LMH Car Type Remains Under Wraps

    Ferrari has yet to confirm the type of LMH car that it will develop, with Coletta declining to specify whether it will use a road-going product as a base or come up with a pure prototype featuring road model styling cues.

    Toyota and Peugeot are producing LMH cars to the latter set of rules for 2021 and 2022, respectively. The canceled Aston Martin Valkyrie project was set to be road car-based.

    When asked which subset of the LMH technical rules Ferrari will be following, Coletta said: “I prefer to answer this question in the future.

    “Now we consider both ideas. Honestly – in my head – the solution is clear. But for the moment I prefer to maintain a cover on this decision.”

    Ferrari has set itself the aim of an early 2023 race debut. Its target for the first track test is April or May next year, but this will depend on how the coronavirus pandemic pans out.

    According to Coletta, restrictions linked to the health crisis cost Ferrari “two to three months” of work in the earliest stages of its program but he’s confident that it will be ready to compete in “the first race” of 2023.

    The date of that first race could depend on whether IMSA allows LMH cars to compete in its top class. IMSA’s season typically starts with the Rolex 24 at Daytona each January, several weeks before the WEC usually begins.

    Ferrari is understood to be eager for LMH cars to run in both the WEC and IMSA.

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    I read this yesterday and couldn't decide if this was an April Fools joke or not.
     
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    We should have a good idea of where they are all going by mid 2022. But all our questions will be answered in 2023 when they finally hit the track in full race config. I am very keen to see the Glikenhaus Vs Ferrari battle. He has a real love hate relationship with them and has had alot to say about them.
     
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    To be fair...on social media he has a lot to say about everyone. I really want to cheer for SCG, but they aren't making it easy to be a fan.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
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    I take social media with a grain of sait. My statement is more based on many of his post on FC from the past. I really enjoyed alot of his posts and interactions here. He had some great insight on many things. But as time went on, I struggled with the growing toxicity on Ferrari, then he sorted disappeared.
     
  20. william

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    Jim Glickenhaus comes out as smug in many of his comments.
     
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    Ferrari is a V12 company. LMH is a BOP category.
    Ron Fellows was a 333 sp driver and then he went to drive race tractors, then he went back to his old car, look at the happy face at that moment. LMH is BOP, FERRARI is aV12!!!! then why not?
     
  25. william

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    He used to be a Ferrari collector, with some historic cars in his collection, but the relation seems to have turned sour.
    What is Jim Glickenhaus' problem with Ferrari now?

    Jim Glickenhaus confirme les deux 007 LMH pour Portimao, Monza et Le Mans

    https://www.endurance-info.com/fr/jim-glickenhaus-confirme-les-deux-007-lmh-pour-portimao-monza-et-le-mans/


    « Mon objectif est de battre Ferrari au Mans en 2023, pas de me présenter à Spa avec une voiture qui n’est pas prête. «

    « Nous faisons cela pour vendre des voitures », a déclaré Glickenhaus. « Nous ne vendons aucune voiture au Moyen-Orient ainsi qu’au Japon. Donc, pour que nous puissions continuer à faire tout le WEC, nous avons besoin de sponsors qui veulent la visibilité que nous pouvons leur offrir sur ces marchés. Le simple fait de courir ne nous intéresse pas. Nous sommes un peu différents des autres entreprises. Est-ce que je pense que nous aurons certains de ces sponsors ? La réponse est oui. Est-ce que je pense qu’un jour nous vendrons des voitures au Japon ? Absolument. Est-ce que je pense que nous vendrons des voitures au Moyen-Orient ? Oui. Cela vaudra-t-il la peine à un moment donné de courir sur ces marchés ? Oui. Mais nous n’avons aucune pression pour faire quoi que ce soit. Je ne pense pas que tout le monde arrive à comprendre cela. Mon objectif n’est pas de gagner le Championnat du Monde d’Endurance. C’est pour profiter de la course et faire vendre des voitures de manière traditionnelle, et non dépenser deux millions de dollars pour Bahrain et Fuji sans vendre de voitures. Pourquoi ferais-je une chose pareille ? »


    Is he forgetting that, apart from Ferrari, there will also be Toyota, Peugeot, Audi and Porsche competing at Le Mans?
     
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