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  1. michael platzer

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    #1 michael platzer, Apr 11, 2006
    this year i missed the techno classica at essen/germany, but a friend was there and told me of some interesting ferrari.
    now i found some pics in the "europe" section.
    i try to verify or find out the s/n of some cars.

    the Zagato bodied berlinetta was told to be based on GTE 4019GT.
    the 410 Superamerica is 1015SA ? i saw the car three years ago at palm beach in good condition in pale blue color.
    what chassis number is the 250 MM ?
    is the 275 GTB4 09445 ?

    and finally - was the breadvan sold ? price ?

    i hope some of the experts have been there and can answer my questions.
     
  2. trkevin

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    #2 trkevin, Apr 11, 2006
    To answer quickly
    yes

    yes

    0256 MM

    yes

    don't know, wasn't sold on Saterday.

    -Kevin
     
  3. Simon

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    #3 Simon, Apr 11, 2006
  4. michael platzer

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    #4 michael platzer, Apr 12, 2006
    great reply - grazie mille !
     
  5. putje

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    #5 putje, Apr 12, 2006
    Look at my webpage for all the ferrari's @ techno classica 2006
    http://www.ferrari-world.be/techno_classica_2006_ferrari.htm

    s/n :

    512 BB : 28145
    250 GT tdf : 0629GT
    250 MM : 0256MM
    275 GTS : engine 07209
    365 GT4 2+2 : 18831
    250 Lusso : ????
    328 GTS : 62825
    330 GT 2+2 : ????
    Dino 208 GT4 : 13732
    250 GTE : 2995GT
    365 GTB/4 : 16979
    Zagato : 4019GT
    212 Inter : 0257EU
    308 GTS : 48981
    330 GT : ????
    308 GTSi : 38935
    308 GTB : 33007
    365 GBT/4 : ?????
    250 GTO replica Favre : ????
    456 GT : 105927
    Breadvan swb : 2819GT
    365 GTB/4 Spider conversion : 14911
    250 GT PF coupe : 1705GT
    275 GTB/4 : 09445GT
    575 MM : 136094
    365 GT4 2+2 : 17139
    246 GTS : 07016
    F40 : 80703
    Dino 246 GT : ?????
    Enzo : ??????
    348 TB comp : 97282
    328 GTB : 78587
    410 SA sIII : 1015SA
    250 GT swb : 3863GT
     
  6. John Vardanian

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    #7 Aardy, Apr 13, 2006
    replica....
     
  8. John Vardanian

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    #8 John Vardanian, Apr 13, 2006
    With the proper RW3264 wheels it would look identical to 0515GT.

    john
     
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    #9 Aardy, Apr 13, 2006
    John,

    if this thing has to be a clone of 0515GT :
    the trunk is wrong, the hood is wrong, the wheels are wrong, the interior is wrong, the nose is wrong....

    another boring replica...
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    #10 Marcel Massini, Apr 13, 2006
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    Being seriously allergic to replicas I can't resist and have to agree with Cyril.
    The real 0515 GT is blue with a white roof, the replica is black with a silver roof (like Peter Kaus' 0665 GT used to be).
    See photos here of the REAL 0515 GT in front of the owner's mansion in Beverly Hills/CA.
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  11. kare

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    #11 kare, Apr 13, 2006
    If you built a replica of a 300 SL to this accuracy, everyone (including the dog next door, the one living on borrowed time) would be laughing at you!
     
  12. Ed Niles

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    #12 Ed Niles, Apr 13, 2006
    I believe the replica is of 0537, not 0515. I owned both, and they are similar except for rear (trunk), hood, side vents, and rear fenders.

    It would be nice to see proper painted wheels, and where are the bumpers?
     
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    #13 John Vardanian, Apr 13, 2006
    Well, maybe not a clone but a variation on the theme.
     
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    #14 Aardy, Apr 14, 2006
    it's true that this replica looks like more 0537GT than 0515GT but again, several details are wrong.
    I will never understand the interest in owning such horrors ??
    And still the same evidence : another real Ferrari "destroyed"...
     
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    #17 Ed Niles, Apr 14, 2006
    Great comparison; thanks, Boudewijn! Is it just me, or does it seem that as Zagato made more they became less successful?
     
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    #18 John Vardanian, Apr 15, 2006
    Funny, the Opel tail lamps on the white car.
     
  19. mroz

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    #19 mroz, Apr 15, 2006
    These Zagato's demonstrate the pursuit of artistic expression. Subtle differences, exploring form within a vision of similar style. I've never seen these cars together. Mr boudewijn , very nice comparison.
     
  20. putje

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    #20 putje, Apr 17, 2006
    Does anybody have the 2 missing s/n.
     
  21. sicqnus

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    #21 sicqnus, Apr 17, 2006
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    Maybe I'm wrong but I guess the GTE based "Zagato" replica is a replica of #0537 GT.
    I think this is the same car I saw in Mr Marc De Pescara's workshop in Paris (Forza automobiles - 15 avenue Rapp) a few months back. The car seemed to be for sale and was advertised as "250GT Zagato 1958" but without any details.
    Curiously the car had a dark blue leather interior (wich the Essen replica have not). I'm confused. Was the car I saw in Paris a real one or a replica ?

    Mr Massini maybe ?
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  22. Boudewijn

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    #22 Boudewijn, Apr 17, 2006
    This is Ellena #0757GT based Zagato replica, until 2 years ago dutch owned. The Essen car is 250 GTE 2+2 #4019GT.
     
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    #23 sicqnus, Apr 17, 2006
    Many thanks Boudewijn.
     
  24. michael platzer

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    #24 michael platzer, Apr 18, 2006
    is the last pic 1367GT?
    do you have a front view of that car ?
     
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