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  1. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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  3. Brakefade

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    So is GM gonna start bragging to everyone that they beat Ferrari like Ford has for the last 40 or so years?
     
  4. Whisky

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    I'd venture to say Chevy has spent more on development of this car for racing than Ferrari has for their car (sic).
    I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
     
  5. anguruso

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    Hey cmon, don't be a sore loser.
     
  6. ferrari4evr1

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    Corvette\GM can brag all they want when it comes to GT3 etc........ When GM decides to play in F1 and beat Ferrari they really dont have a lot to brag about. But i'm sure they'll take whatever they can get... :)
     
  7. James_Woods

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    But it is a lot like the Ferrari/Ford battles of the bid 60s, is it not? Huge corporate entity (think the Darth Vader Space Empire) feels psycho need to use vast resources to beat up on successful and charismatic little guy...this is what happens when you pizs off Henry Ford 2!

    Somehow, though - I have to think this was more about some Sr. Executives EGO (like the Chrysler building in NYC?) because I don't know many people who "would have bought a Ferrari until I saw this result, but now it's Z06 all the way and I'm taking my money to the bank". Nor many NASCAR fans who will be much moved by the accomplishment.

    Potential Viper owners, just a slight maybe, but nil on Ferrari.
     
  8. enjoythemusic

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    Am not surprised, the Vette far exceeds the Ferrari in value for dollar on performance for a street... and total cost of ownership. Heck, your 360 and 430 may have depreciated an ENTIRE new Vette in value(!). But this is a Ferrari chat board so am sure the Tofosi FanBoys are blind.

    Isn't Ferrari in the slower GT2 cars with Porsche while the Vette is in the faster GT1 in another series? But hey, in the real world of cars most of you guys drive on the strets am sure you love the personality and recognition of your Ferrari, something that may not happen if you had a Vette.
     
  9. yzee

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    You can go to the link in post 2 and learn more, but we don't have GT3 in ALMS and niether the Corvette or the Ferrari had factory sponsorship. Not a factory Ford vs. Ferrari dual here.
     
  10. James_Woods

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    Right - & Jim Hall and the Chapparals did not have any factory help either...but, the point is well made. ALMS is just a little down on the food chain from the commercialism of F1 or real LeMans.
     
  11. yzee

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    The closest thing to a GM factory effort is the Pratt & Whitney developed Corvettes in ALMS, GT1. They ran alone in the US this year but were beat by the Astons in May at the 24 hrs. of LeMans. You may want to take that back to the Corvette board.
     
  12. GrndLkNatv

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    A 7.0 Litre Chevy versus a 4.3 Ferrari, comparable weight but of course much more torque with the bigger engine.. So Chevy can brag all they want, they still can't produce as much horsepower per litre as can Ferrari and BTW, Ferrari and GM have had a technology agreement for about five years now and if you have noticed the vette keeps looking more and more like a 599 Maranello all the time and a lot of the technology in the new vette comes from Ferrari.

    You might also notice that the Maserati MC12's kill the vettes on most tracks....
     
  13. James_Woods

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    Also true. And IMHO, the effort of the Aston team had me standing up and cheering even though I have a ZR1 and a Z06 and probably would never consider an Aston-M.

    Best racing of the day - much better than the diesel cars, in fact.
     
  14. yzee

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    But the Audi V-10 twin turbo diesels that run the ALMS and have won LeMans the last 2 years,
    and the P2 Penske Porsches have beat the Audis in the US and have never went to LeMans. The ALMS dose not lack much, if anything on it's European counterpart
     
  15. Ferrari250GTO

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    Yeh LOL, Ford has done a lot to beat Ferrari since those few years!
     
  16. Gran Drewismo

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    Whoa, whoa. "Horsepower per litre"??? As in, the Corvette beat it, but it's a lesser vehicle because they don't produce as much power per litre? Since when did this become a Honda forum?
     
  17. vipersteve

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    Didn't the new Corvette come out before the 599?
     
  18. GrndLkNatv

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    did not come out before the 550 which has become the 599. GM paid fiat 2.4 billion for a trade in technology which brought the vette up to where it is now.. Fiat used the cash to pay Maserati and Alfa.. If GM hadnt done the deal the corvete wouldn't even be competitive today.
     
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    I suppose I missed all of these new-fangled jet turbine Corvettes running in ALMS. They all sounded like V-8's to me!
     
  21. yzee

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    Typing to fast. Pratt & Miller. You are correct and also the first to note.
     
  22. fatbillybob

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    What? You got any referrences for this statement. I find it hard to believe Fiat would sell Ferrari? technology to make vettes faster. That's like girlfriends sharing real beauty secrets...not likely.
     
  23. Prugna 328

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    Prob. been said already. I didnt read every post, but let em brag, bottom line, which would you rather own? :)
     
  24. Whisky

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    I always have two thoughts along these lines:

    1) I see a million Corvettes on the street, every day. They don't turn my head. Ferrari's do.

    2) At the end of the day, when you are driving a Corvette - like a million other guys - it's STILL a Chevy.
     
  25. GrndLkNatv

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    Where have people been?

    When it started!

    http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/eiro/2000/04/feature/it0004151f.htm

    GM's money used to buy Maserati and Alfa..

    http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-11455.html

    And then GM wants out!

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DEEDD153AF937A25751C0A9639C8B63

    GM to continue to pay Fiat for engineering help and co-develop existing platforms..

    "Both Fiat and GM will continue to support the joint development of existing platforms. "

    http://www.maseratinet.com/MCI/maseratisold.asp

    GM co-developing V6 horsepower with Fiat for other cars as well as Ferrari makes the best V6 horsepower, thanks to Dino..

    http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/0301chev.html

    Engine/Powertrain co-development::

    http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Daily_Auto_News/GM_Buys_Off_Fiat_For_2B.S173.A8121.html


    BTW, Ferrari helped Chevy develop a lot of their performance pieces for the corvette, including brakes, transmission, engine, all sorts of stuff....
    As I said, without Ferrari/Fiat, Corvettes wouldn't be competitive. As well all know, Chevrolet/GM can't compete in F1, don't have the knowledge nor the
    talent to do so. So when you drive your Corvette, remember that it's really a poor mans 550/599 and in every vette their's a little bit of Enzo making you look good.
     

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