Ferrari Built from 12 Photos

As are MANY gto's, SWBs, etc etc
Look at the nose of 64 GTO 5575.........done by BS, TX
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This is true, BUT.... It takes a huge amount of time and effort to do it, and if you don't have something to measure it is extremely difficult to do. The reason is that panel beaters don't necessarily follow spline curves (like a CAD model wants to do) and photos, unless taken directly from the side and with included items of known size also have distortion in them. Even side, top, front and back photos only give you the outline, and there is so much more to the shape than that if you are trying to get it right. It sounds easy, but unless you take an existing car through a coordinate measuring machine, a body like this is very difficult and time conusming to model.

I've done a partial CAD model of the bodywork of a P4, and I've looked at and measured literally hundreds of photos of the cars (and they are all different), but if you don't measure the real car you aren't going to get that close. Trying to recreate a body like this, that no longer exists, from photos with a body dolly and a hammer is a herculean task. We have the luxury of the internet now and can access hundreds of photos of even obscure cars, and while it's very easy to point out specific areas of a car and say "this is wrong,or that is wrong", it is a whole other world to actually go out and build it.

I'd say Wayne did a fine job with what he had at the time, the car is a very good representation of the original, and if it flashed by me on the track I'd say it was close enough. He may well have know what was doing and that it was different, and just liked it better that way.

I think we should all just enjoy it and accept it for what it is, a unique and very rare car and the product of a fine craftsman who has a unique place in the history of the marque.

 

Even restoring an original body is a herculean task.
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It most certainly is, and yours is coming along beautifully I might add.

 

Ardy, great pix. thanks. I agree there are aspects of this repro that could have been done better. Even the intakes in front of the rear wheels arn't quite right. However this is the body designe for which this car will always be associated and had a steller competition career.I am sure there is a story behind why some of these "not quite correct" bitts came about which we may never know. Let's give an A for effort and just enjoy the results.They are far better than not having any at all. And all the world knows this is a reproduction. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

Here are a few pretty awful pictures of Vignale Spider 0238A which Severt "Kroken" Sundberg
loses his life. Maybe they be censored but they were published in swedish magazine SE.
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Thanks for sharing these photos.

It's totally unclear why rebody was made with so big mistakes

 

We could make a big thread about bad restorations, even with many recent "Best of Show" cars, but I'm sure some guys here would want to kill me after that...

 

Whoever built that body did not fully comprehend the standard of today. 25 years ago everybody would have agreed that this car is a 100% exact reproduction. The sad thing is that a very rare 1954 Scaglietti body was removed after almost 50 years.

 

Hello Jim; After viewing your photos & seeing some of your collection...All I can say is...If "Envy" is one of the 7 deadly sins....I'm going STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!.....I applaud you....Mark

 

You can fill a book!

 

Exactly.

But you can see in others threads (the one about 0297/EU for example) how much it's a sensitive subject...

 

+1, a very apt comment.

And Jim yes I believe restoring an existing body is often much harder, hence the easier option is to remove and replicate something ... .
Pete

 

"But you can see in others threads (the one about 0297/EU for example) how much it's a sensitive subject..."


The 0297 thread differs from this one. The owner of 0297, clearly enjoying and proud of her new car, came here seeking information and fellow enthusiasts. I don't believe the OP had anything to do with the restoration of her car. She shared photos and information with the forum.

One could argue about the omission of chrome trim on the nose of 0297 as restored; I would have kept the trim. But 0297 seems to be in the hands of someone who will love it, care for it, and share it with others. Who knows, she might love the car so much that she will eventually be persuaded to correct any errors in the prior restoration (if there indeed are any).

It seems to me that we ought to welcome ownership of one of these old artworks by someone who genuinely cares about it.

One can sympathize with "sensitivities" when one has devoted much time and effort to researching a car, finding a proper restorer, paying a fortune and enduring several years of waiting to have the work done.

 

as long as you can substantiate your claims with facts, there shouldn't be a (legal) problem. But one shouldn't be surprised that these types of claims aren't welcomed by those involved. They can, potentially, do a lot of damage to the car's value.

 

You said it all : money, not passion...

 

+1

 

Maybe we should say -1 in this case ...

Pete

 

What happened to the Vignale Coupe body?

Wayne Sparing is a great guy, loved his Alloy 6C, but this Abarth recreation needs another go-over. Some CAD work like this would be very beneficial:

http://www.seriouswheels.com/1930-1939/1938-Lancia-Aprilia-Sport-Reconstructed-Zagato-FA-Mapping-1280x960.htm

 

The owner still has it and I think he is putting it on another car. Dont know what though..
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