Sounds like two fatalities, may they RIP: http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/two-killed-in-ferrari-smash/2006/07/26/1153816234138.html No doubt the usual sensationalist crap will be on the telly tonight. Regards, Carl.
Have just heard on the radio that a late model Ferrari has slammed into a tree on the Marondah Highway (I think that where they said) and the male driver and female passenger were both killed. Car split in two. I may not have the facts fully correct but the basics are what was broadcast. What a tragedy. Anyone with more correct or more information? Tony
From ABCnews. Ferrari cut in two during fatal highway accident Police are investigating a fatal accident in Lilydale, in Melbourne's outer east. Two people died when their car hit a tree beside the Warbuton Highway just before 1:00pm AEST today. Police spokesperson Sheree Argento says they are investigating if speed was a factor in the crash. "We have a Ferrari vehicle that we believe has run off the road at a sweeping bend on the Warburton Highway and that vehicle is so extensively damaged it's now actually in two pieces," she said. The Warburton Highway is closed in both directions at Lily Road.
I'll lay odds that it is a 360 and the sweeping bend had a dip/rise or rough patch that upset the cars underbody dynamics at speed. The move to underbody generated downforce in modern Ferraris is not without problems in my experience. Give me a big ugly wing any day thanks.
I'm very sorry for the families involved. It may seem a little heartless to bring this up, but this is an example of why high speed driving belongs on a track.
Again from ABC Fatal crash could have involved second car: police Police are investigating whether a second car was involved in a fatal crash in Melbourne's outer east this afternoon. A 33-year-old Wandin North man and a 22-year-old Traralgon woman were killed when their Ferrari sports car hit a tree on the side of the Warburton Highway at Lilydale. Senior Constable Bradi Owens says they believe another car was in the area at the time. "Police are appealing to any witness to the collision to come forward, in particular police would like to speak to the occupants of a late model silver Ford sedan with orange racing stripes that was seen in the area prior to the collision," he said.
you can't really say a wing would of avoided the crash , which i know you are not . underbody aero would count for very little on a road car and there would be many factors to consider .
at what speed does the underbody become a major influence on road-holding? if they were over that speed and something upset it i can see it could play a leading role.
If it is a 360 Modena, Ferrari managed to quad-droople the downforce the 355 had. At 180mph/289km/h, they only have 180kg of downforce. I doubt he was driving that quick anyways. But at 60mph/100km/h, they only have around 50kg of downforce. Because the car only weighs 1400kg, that is not alot of downforce. Not sure what happened here of course yet......speeding.....bald tyres, lost control ect....????
Counts for very little for a road car AT the speed limit.... most of the time. Go over the speed limit and it's a whole different ball game. I can recall one drive in my 360 where I went over a slight crest in the road at a moderate clip i.e. NOT warp speed (live in the police state after all), and it was most decidedly "pucker material". Far too many folks pushing up daises who found that out. I think the 430 is better; but the 360 is quite dangerous in the wrong set of circumstances.
I would LOVE to see a graph of downforce generated vs speed for all the different modern Ferraris. I have seen lots of stats; but can't recall seeing such a graph.
I think we are all ahead of ourselves with the conclusions, to what actually happened. For all we know this "other car" could of been racing him(I'm guessing a FPV Falcon of some type) and the falcon owner could of clipped him and sent him into the tree... I guess we will find out in afew days time. Still I don't get why they tree's and not guardrails on highways
Either way, the Ferrari was cut in half man. It was speeding. Not hard to draw a conclusion there brother....Speeding/lost control/clipped by other car/whatever.....crash.
Some. Not all for public viewing though. This one generally available if you know where to look. Not 100% accurate, but useful and informative. Image Unavailable, Please Login
If indeed there was, then yes, I agree. But everyone has to remember that the Ferrari occupants are dead, if there was another car/driver involved, they may not come forward and own up as they may think they will get into trouble because of the deceased. Its just human nature unfortunately.
