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  1. marat

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    #101 marat, Mar 29, 2014
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    Olivier Gendebien crashed during early practice at the 1955 Tourist Trophy.
    The number on the side looks like 5 and should be 6. Any explanation ?
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  2. Terra

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    I thought the 2003 LM crash occurred during Juan Barazi's ownership?
     
  3. thecarreaper

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    Question: Several of the vintage car pictures seem to show none of these cars run with air-boxes or air-filters of any kind?

    Is that correct?

    Would there not be lots of dust and grit ingested by the engines, and more chance of fuel spilling from the multiple carbs on a hot engine during a shunt?

    Thank you.
     
  4. Boudewijn

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    The race# 5 was meant to be the race# for the Trintignant/Maglioli team and they were due to race in this car, #0588M. Gendebien just did some practice laps with the car the Thursday before the race and crashed. Afterwards the Trintignant couple raced on #5 in 0578M(0584M).
     
  5. T308

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    And somehow the car ended up in California in the 1980s
     
  6. richardowen

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    Simply because you are offended, it does not give you, or anyone else, special rights.

    Your own study of international conflict has far more tragedy and suffering, so I don't quite understand your angle.
     
  7. TTR

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    Thank you for confirming that my communication skills require improvement as I apparently can't even comprehend myself what I'm trying to convey, let alone make myself understood by others and therefor need to refrain commenting publicly on subjects I know nothing about... and my sincere apologies to all for confusing issues at hand.
     
  8. Harry-SZ

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    #108 Harry-SZ, Apr 3, 2014
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    One of my first big Ferrari events. Ferrari days/Oldtimer GP at the Nurburgring and this 250 SWB crashed into the pit wall in front of us.
    I believe it was 1997 or 1998, so maybe not old enough for this thread.

    I took this picture after it was towed into the paddock.
    I even have a small piece of paint from this car.
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  9. Athanase

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    2165GT in 1996.
     
  10. michael platzer

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    today no one would show a crashed car on an open trailer. normally they are covered and stowed away very quick.
     
  11. GBTR6

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    Seems a lot of these crashes occur in Europe/Overseas for us in the U.S. Over here, at vintage events, they are much more careful. Doesn't mean it isn't as great to see the cars, and there are shunts still. Just seems a different attitude in Europe about these events, no? Red mist perhaps?

    Perry
     
  12. wbaeumer

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    Well, I strongly assume that no driver/owner of such important -and very valuable- cars wants to drive 10/10 today (perhaps with the exeption of Carlos M. who seemed to like more shunted alloy than straight panels on his cars in the past :)), doesn`t matter if in EU or the US.

    Yes, hist. racing is a little more tough in EU rather than in the US. One reason for this is perhaps due to the many much more difficult race circuits we have here in ol`Europe, like Spa, Monza, Dijon, Goodwood, Brands Hatch etc.! More dangerous and challenging.
     
  13. GIOTTO

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  15. NürScud

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    That looks bad, really bad. How the car looks today?
     
  16. GBTR6

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    Probably true. I would just assume that they would be more careful with these cars. I know a lot of pro drivers are hired to exhibit/drive these in events. They aren't immune to shunts either. But the trouble with owner drivers seems the real threat. No matter who is driving, need to stay within limits.

    Perry
     
  17. swift53

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    Amazing crumple zone. Notice the door...

    Race cars are just that, the pilots that race them, now that is different story.

    Some are great, others, well...

    Owning a race car, does not automatically make everyone a great driver. Caveat emptor!

    By the way, Rubirosa, was not quite dressed when he crashed ;)

    Regards, Alberto
     
  18. 250P

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  19. NürScud

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    Thanks for the response. It looks great!
     
  20. michael platzer

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    2005 the car was heavily crashed too.
     
  21. Vincent Vangool

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    Wondering if anyone has a picture of this. It has stuck in my head since that day. Was quite a moment in my life to see this happen.

    I was at Road America for the Historic races in the mid 80's I believe, and a Ferrari 250 GTO ripped its Borrani spokes to shreds, sending the wheel off the car and taking out the rear lower right of the car in the process. I believe the driver downshifted into a turn and the resulting damage ensued.

    I have been told elsewhere that the car belonged to Dr. R. Bodin at the time.
     
  22. readplays

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    In that case, 3223 GT.
     
  23. Vincent Vangool

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  24. Doug Nye

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    At least two of the photos displayed in this thread so far - those showing the burned-out 250P at Le Mans in 1963, and then the rolled Gendebien car on its side at Dundrod, were taken by my late friend Geoffrey Goddard. The negs and copyright reside today with The GP Library. If you guys must use our property in this manner PLEASE have the courtesy to add a copyright line on the post... It's not much to ask. If you don't know whose copyright an image is, it should not be posted. Many copyright holders are not half as accommodating and understanding on the enthusiast's behalf as we are...

    By the way - interesting thread, if displaying in places attitudes I don't admire.

    DCN
     
  25. ted walker

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    Well sais as usual Doug. The same comments apply to all my photographs(ferret fotographics)
     

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