Yes you are correct that they are not telling blatant lies but do you think they are being completely open and honest with their fans? I saw SD being interviewed by the BBC crew after the race and he was telling Jordan some very tall tales. It will be interesting to see what they say tomorrow.
You presume other teams do it and use that as justification for Ferrari unquestionably doing it... that doesn't fly with me. Also, I don't think the other teams do it. If they did, there would not have been a crash between Webber and Vettel nor would there have been a pass with contact between Button and Hamilton. The fact that those things did happen is de facto proof that there are no team orders within McLaren or Red Bull. I cannot think of any other situation that is analogous to the Ferrari situation - where one teammate moved over to let another pass. I can't even think of any situation where one teammate clearly allowed another to take a position that they wouldn't likely have gotten had the former not moved over.
They should strip points won by both the drivers and also for the Scuderia for pulling a move like that so early in the championship.
Unprofessional would be FA's INABILITY to pass the slower, at the time, Massa. As far as the press, FA got what he deserved in terms of questions. His whining about manipulation via Mclaren in Valencia and the question about that after Germany were spot on. He should know manipulation very well. Alonso the pathetic.
Speaking of, i don't think FA executed a proper pass on Massa yet this season. Either it's team orders, or that cheap shot in China, IIRC.
As much as I hated what was done to Massa, I don't think it would be right to punish the drivers for something decided by the team. If anyone has broken any rules, it is the scuderia, not Massa or Alonshole.
Ferrari F1 is a joke, they should be banned for the remainder of the season and Alonso should be banned for life. He brings nothing positive to the series and neither does a team so bluntly giving orders. Other teams may do small things here and there but if that's so true why aren't they in court?
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6364787/Jordan-Ferrari-treated-us-all-like-muppets Muppets Funny title at least!
Exactly - clear proof there are no team orders in McLaren. Jenson ran down and tried to pass his teammate. Lewis was going easy assuming Jenson was also on low fuel. Jenson had a go at Lewis, who held him off - and that was that. Proof positive no team orders were involved. And very different than the Ferrari situation in every way.
As I have posted previously about this episode in another thread: So why was Button told his fuel was critical when he had much more fuel on board than Hamilton?. Seems I'm not the only one not blinkered to the real goings on in F1 (From http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86459) : Hill believes there are too many grey areas in the current team orders rule, for while Ferrari's place exchange at Hockenheim was carried out very openly, other position swaps between team-mates are believed to have taken place via deliberately slower pitstops and other more subtle tactics in recent years. "Teams say they are not implementing team orders but we all suspect that what they are doing is indicating to the driver how they would like them to perform, which can't be construed as an order," said Hill. And now it seems as if the FIA are thinking that maybe the ban on team orders is being circumnavigated too easily by teams and that they need to review whether or not the rule is worth having at all: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86481 Still, if you both genuinely believe that no other team in F1 but Ferrari instigate team orders by alternative methods, then perhaps I can interest you in a couple of fantastic, guaranteed money making opportunities. Trust Me, you can't loose!.
Why bother having the team appear in Paris just to say "you're good to go, we'll have a look at changing the rule"? I hope, just to piss on F1 a little more, that Ferrari get the chance to do the same thing again... on the last lap... at Monza. I mean, they've all just been given a license to break that rule. I'm sure the fans would just LOOOOOOOOVE that. .
Too bad they didn't come to this obvious conclusion a month ago. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
