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Ferrari Enzo Crash in Germany 5 March 2024

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  1. Lukeylikey

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    Should buff right out…
     
  2. Lukeylikey

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    ..but seriously, that will get repaired surely? It’s a complete front end but seems to have neatly avoided everything else (doors, windshield etc.). Anyone know what happened?
     
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  4. INRange

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    Looks like a driver's side strike. This from the article:

    At around 11:20 a.m., a Ferrari driver skidded near the Neuherberg exit towards Lindau and crashed into the central barrier. The debris of the super sports car was spread over a length of 200 meters.

    Looks like someone was going too fast........that will be expensive.
     
  5. Marcel Massini

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    Rumour has it that it was some test driver/employee/mechanic of the official dealer in Munich, Germany.
    No longer Autohaus Saggio but now owned by Emil Frey AG, Europe's largest car dealer group.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  6. Chicko

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    I would be checking the production date on the tires.
     
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  7. flat-12

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    It was not cold yesterday in Munich, but temperatures are still low and the road is perhaps too cold for performance tires at the beginning of the drive. So traction is low and accelerating may get exciting.

    The new Ferrari dealership in Munich is only about 5 km away from the place the accident happend.
     
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    I feel for the owner and grateful no one was seriously injured.

    Having personally put over 70k+ miles behind the wheel of an Enzo I seriously cannot think of any other reason why this would happen other than Old Tires!

    I have driven in torrential rain, snow, and sub freezing temperatures and with the right tires the Enzo performed amazingly, there have been a few white knuckle experiences, standing water and fat tires equal Not Fun, but to this day not a single scratch! *knock on carbon fiber .

    All too often do I see owners driving older cars with ancient tires they believe are " just fine" because they "still have all their tread" .

    If you're one of those guys listen up! Compounds degrade over time, you can have "like New" tires with full tread but after a few years that compound hardens, looses flexibility, becomes brittle and becomes worthless!

    Unfortunately for Enzo owners , and many other older Ferraris, finding good tires that actually fit the OEM wheels is very difficult to impossible!

    (If you're one of those Enzo owners trying to figure out what tires we use shoot me a message!)

    Drive Tastefully My Friends!!
     
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    Not nice to see at all, and fortunately no serious casualties by the sound of it.
     
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    What a shame, glad no one was seriously hurt.

    Car will be fixed, glad I am not paying for the repair. :oops:
     
  11. Lukeylikey

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    70k miles?! That’s fantastic. Sounds like they have been as enjoyable as you could reasonably expect.
     
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    How often you switch tires? In what weather/climate/country you drive this 70k?
     
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    His Enzo actually now has over 100,000 miles (not kilometers, it's a USA car), driven in all kinds of weather from snow to desert in the USA, here's an old image approaching 93,000 miles, perhaps Stackhouse will post proof of over 100k.

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    Nooooo!!!! This hurts my heart!!
     
  15. willcrook

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    incredible respect for driving 100,000 miles - it's super rare for people to actually stack miles on f40/50/enzo/la's!
     
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    It is rare, but good to see, there are also at least 2 well-known F40s with over 100,000 kilometers, and an F50 with around 70,000 miles (112,000 kilometers).
     
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    Kudos to the owners. I don’t even think about miles except as for maintenance intervals.
    Everyone has different prerogatives and I respect that also.
    I like being a driver without regard for mileage/value etc…
     
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  18. Stackhouse

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    Thanks Joe,
    Richard rolled the Enzo to 100k not too long ago. Since then I have added a few more to try and stay ahead of him ;-)

    Here's a pic of the 100k roll over. You should come out sometime and join me for a drive!
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    Have been using Michelin PS AS tires last set got about 23k miles before swapping to a new set (we do long distance driving through the beautiful state of Utah here in the USA these tires do not see any aggressive track driving) when weather gets bad , rain etc these tires do quite well. I had a separate set made for winter to mount a set of Michelin Alpin snow and ice tires to making the Enzo a real beast in freezing weather, ice and even snow!
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  20. therryzsx

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    if I can ask, what issues and what service was necessary for enzo during this 100k miles? you are first owner?
     
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    1 owner car, owned by Richard Losee,

    Lots of annoying things here and there but overall nothing Major or catastrophic (since I began driving at 43k miles)

    Regular fluid changes and the occasional aux belt swap.

    Mechanically *knock on Carbon Fiber* motor and trans have been great!

    Here is a good article describing the cars story and towards the end my involvement.

    https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/interviews/i-crashed-my-enzo-at-200mph-rebuilt-it-and-added-another-65000-high-speed-miles/
     
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    Great article - thanks for posting that. I remember reading about that crash years ago.

    Does Utah still do the “Fast Pass” tour ?

    MDS
     
  23. joe sackey

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    I will make it out there, meanwhile please say hello to Richard, a true gentleman if I ever met one.

    What a great Ferrari story, I can't help recalling with fondness his amazing Lamborghini Miura SV story also, one for the ages.
     
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    The event lasted several years, changed names then came to an end a few years ago.
     
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