I am reading your posts trying to learn about the F-market. Ideally, I can make sense of the 430 levels and get the car I want shortly. What are your learned thoughts about the purchase of a Ferrari Experience car? These F1s were run for the Experience participants at Mont Tremblant and are well-equipped with carbo-ceramic brakes and sport seats. On the one hand, it would be logical to think about the downside of miles put on at speed (con brio?) by various levels of expertise participants. On the other hand, the sleds would have been sorted and maintained by Ferrari personnel so they may be really dialed in. What are your thoughts? Vitals: <5k mileage, $220k MSRP, $240k ask level, brakes renewed after Experience retirement. Grazie
What type of price are they asking for these cars? What year are they and, not that it really matters, but about how many miles are on the odometer? Many mechanics I've spoken with have said to stay away from "garage queens" or cars that people buy and let sit for years and never drive. These same mechanics said that if a car is tracked AND maintained, no issue. These cars were meant to be driven. The only thing I'd check is brake wear. I'm told (but don't know for sure) that a brake job on a Carbon Ceramic equipped car is pretty pricey. Interesting concept... good luck. Frank
If they are asking $240,000 U.S., you can buy a brand new one for that or very very close. A well maintained car is a well maintained car. At the same time, these cars were intentionally "stepped on" by people who drove and never worried about seeing the car again. Againif I understand the pricing, why pay so much for a question mark? Best
Does Ferrari provide any extra warranty or incentive to buy the MT-FE cars vs any other 'used' car??? All Ferrari's have been put through the track test prior to leaving the factory for delivery. The MT-FE cars just have more track time. I would discount a small bit for the MT-FE cars, but not too much......
I'd forget it. Sound like F thinks they're doing you a favor by letting you buy one. At the very least the leather would have a wear level of a car with about $15 - 20K miles on it. These cars should go for no more than sticker. They probably don't want to do that because they don't want people making a buck off of them.
Me, I'd buy one of these cars in a heartbeat. Yes, I did the Ferrari Experience the first year. Man, oh, man. What a car. And, yes, I used to own a Challenge Stradale. So, if you don't want to do the deal, send me a PM. Dale
The only issue you would possibly face with a Mont Tremblant car is the brakes and my understanding is that the brakes are replaced before sale. For the rest, these cars are driven nowhere near their limits, a few laps at a time. They are in impeccable condition. I attended the 2nd to last session of the FDE last year and the cars were flawless, even after a whole season of FDE's. The cars are definitely well run in and the engines are sweet having been bedded in the right way. The only caveat is that I would not buy the skidpad cars - (they were sticks BTW) - they definitely took more abuse than the track cars fitted with F1 trannies.
I would have zero concerns about the condition of the cars (I have a personal goal of at least 6K miles/yr.). Having said that, I would make certain that the deal comes with full factory warranty and most importantly, the transaction flow through your local dealer so that you develop the relationship "equity" that comes with buying a local, dealer sourced car. Cheers.
It is good to see some positive responses. One thing that a lot of folks don't realize is that buying ANY new Ferrari is a bit of a crap shoot. Ferrari is not Toyota (duh!) and does not have the resources to pretest production cars in a manner that all of us have come to expect in a new car. If you don't believe me, buy the techs at your local dealership a beer or two and listen to their stories. Not only are these Ferrari Experience Cars hand picked, but they have been gone over with a fine toothed comb, before, during and after. Plus, while the instructors probably get away with a hot lap or two, most of the time they are doing little more than 7/10s. So, as already mentioned, I'd make sure that the CS brakes have been replaced (which are fantastic brakes BTW). Plus, I'd check out the clutch life because all those cool sounding down shifts take their toll. Other than that, I'd enjoy! Dale
Just curious, what "kind of use" do you think is appropriate for a Ferrari? I drove several of those cars at Mont Tremblant and I'm with Dr. Who. I think I would be OK with any of the F1 cars at a fair price, but I would only get a manual car if the clutch had also been replaced and there was an appropriate price reduction. The cars were always properly warmed up before use and they were always under the eye of an instructor and also eyeballed by a mechanic before going out each time. These were not rental cars that were let out for joyrides. They were driven in a spirited fashion, but I can't say that any of the F1 cars were "abused" any more than any Ferrari with a previous owner that drove them as you might think a Ferrari owner would drive them. The advantages are that they've been "wrung out" for any latent defects, were properly warmed up and maintained and they still have a warranty. The disadvantages are that they've had more ingress/egress per mile than usual so the carpets and leather might be a bit more worn.
I attended The Ferrari Driving Experience (Mont Tremblant) in June of this year and I definitely agree with the above . . . well said.
